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Old 03-21-2014, 09:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As most of you know by now....Bane is a little of 6 months old...Training for SchH....

During training sessions, I will "break" and me and Bane will run around rough housing....My arms and the back of my legs are pretty bruised from his teeth....lol....We will play around for a short while, then I'll get him focused right back to obedience.

We will run around, I'll give him a slight push off, and continue running...Usually he ends up with my arm...Not much pressure, the pinching is what's bruising me...When he nips me with the end of his teeth...

I'm not causing a future bad habit by this type of play am I? I consider it periods of fun/rough play during obedience.
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Personally, I would not play this way. It is unstructured and is causing him to be Undisciplined in his biting and getting rewarded for it. You can accomplish the same thing by playing tug, two hose, or fetch. With lots of praise and high pitched reward.

But that just me. Someone with more SchH experience hopefully will chime in.


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Personally, I would not play this way. It is unstructured and is causing him to be Undisciplined in his biting and getting rewarded for it. You can accomplish the same thing by playing tug, two hose, or fetch. With lots of praise and high pitched reward.

But that just me. Someone with more SchH experience hopefully will chime in.


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Thank you...Makes sense....I haven't been playing this game long, so I can get it stopped if needed....I was using a tug or fetch before. Habits I want to keep to a minimum...I know there will be some along the way created by me....
I'm still a work in progress for "thinking like a dog". Haha
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I don't mind rough housing with the dog. I think it's great bonding as well as teaching good bite inhibition and impulse control etc. But I wouldn't do it in a middle of a training session. That can confuse the dog. I also don't do it often. I'd rather use a helper and save my arm from bruises.
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I wouldn't do it. I don't think it will ruin your dog or anything or interfere with bitework (dog should know the difference) but personally I don't like dogs' teeth on me. There are plenty of toys and other ways to channel the interaction without me ending up like a pin cushion.
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I've never had the desire to rough house with any of my dogs.. Maybe because I'm female.. "I" think it "can" put you on a different playing level with the dog..

Sure, I'll push my dogs away from me while training and excite them with my voice.. They'll jump on me and push me for the toy I have.. But I do not want them putting their mouth on me or wanting/allowing them to bite at me..
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Interesting thread. I torment my dog every day. BUT he doesn't nip at me . He will hold my hand but thats it. He will bite a little if ya have your hand under a blanket an move it around.. He watches the expression on your face if he is biting to hard. That's blanket monster time for him. He goes crazy. After we are done ya tell him "enuff" and he stops. I pull on his tail, ears, extra skin under his neck, feet, nose and his tongue.. I stick my hand in his bowl while he is eating. If he has a bone I will just take it out of his mouth to "play" with him. He just looks at ya . Reason why I do this is in case kids start playing with him. Hunter is at a farm, winter house and a lake house. Did I say kids always around ?? He is gentle as can be. Could care less what ya take away from him. Oh Hunter just turned 4 a2 months ago. God I love these dogs !!! Have had them since the mid 60's.


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His teeth are gorgeous! What do you feed him LuckyDog?
I agree with the others that the rough play should be structured to a toy, not you if the dog wants to bite while playing.
Targeting the sleeve for the bite in IPO is done early on, better to train with that in mind so the dog doesn't think dirty biting the helper is acceptable.
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I think some on here don't rough house with their dogs and they don't do it because of what they THINK will happen and aren't really speaking from experience.

My dog doesn't treat me like a chew toy and he never initiates play. He also doesn't go around biting family members or strangers to try to play. It's only me. Also his bite is still deep and full on a sleeve. He will thrash and pull on a sleeve but not with my arm. The dog isn't stupid. Has anyone ever had rough housing effect bite work? I'm talking about real experience and not just hypotheticals behind a computer screen?
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Old 03-22-2014, 07:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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No, some of us just choose not too.. Nor do we see a need!

Really, since this is in the schh thread- I don't know anyone that I've ever trained with or clubs that I've been to and associated with who rough house and let their dogs bite on them, they choose to channel the dogs energy in other ways..

I'm sure there are people in the sport that do.. I've just not met one yet..
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