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No Stick Hits in the FCI Championships!

So I hear on another forum that the FCI is going to ban stick hits in the upcoming championship and will likely vote them out completely in 2017. I have heard rumblings that the SV (being the gutless organization that it is) has been looking for an excuse to do the same.

Not only this but the I also hear that there will soon be a ban on member dogs being trained with E Collars, that will involve titles being stripped and dogs not allowed to breed for 2 years.

Cant say I am shocked but as IPO is the most common Bite Sport in North America I have to admit that I am sincerely saddened. I have really enjoyed my recent foray into this venue and it does not look like there is anything meaningful that will replace it.

Ring: Not enough clubs or interest more Mal oriented
PSA: Very cool, not enough clubs or trials
SDA: Next to no clubs

I truly hope that the North American IPO organizations will draw a line in the sand and split form the SV but I know thats a pipe dream.

We all know the stick hits where more a formality then true pressure but its the principle and I think the begining of the end when it comes to IPO.

Its to the point where you might as well take up dock diving and call it a day as it will be just as meaningful as an IPO title.

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Blitzkrieg do you know why?
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I have heard the same. Not supprised, schH has been getting watered down for a while now.

Start training SDA! You don't need to be affiliated to hold a trial. There aren't really any "affiliated" clubs, no organization dues, just training, trialing and fun. Let me know if you want more details.
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There are various technical excuses but the long and short of it is many Western Euro countries have allowed the Animal Rights activists to influence legislation and public perception of dogsport (which is quite big over there).

So the SV and FCI have been on a campaign to make IPO more palatable to the uneducated masses as well as appease the AR idiots and the legislators that are being pressured by them. Its a losing proposition but unfortunately they seem determined to continue on this path.

Lets not forget that the SV and FCI are ruled by the all mighty show dollars that have no vested interest in tests that put any kind of pressure or expectations on the dogs. Just go through the formalities and stamp the dog appropriate for breeding thank you very much.

I think ultimately bitework will be banned in many of those countries..

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I have heard the same. Not supprised, schH has been getting watered down for a while now.

Start training SDA! You don't need to be affiliated to hold a trial. There aren't really any "affiliated" clubs, no organization dues, just training, trialing and fun. Let me know if you want more details.
How do they judge and award titles then?

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FCI ruins all kinds of stuff. The best lines of malinois aren't allowed to compete in fci events the nvbk ones. They're freaking monsters.
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How do they judge and award titles then?

Anyone can hold a trial. However every trial must have a certified judge and decoy(s). The last SDA trial I was at brought in two decoys (including myself) and a judge. Other than that, the group just trained off videos, website and talking to SDA people about any confusion. That group is now hooked and hosting two trials a year.
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Anyone can hold a trial. However every trial must have a certified judge and decoy(s). The last SDA trial I was at brought in two decoys (including myself) and a judge. Other than that, the group just trained off videos, website and talking to SDA people about any confusion. That group is now hooked and hosting two trials a year.
Intersting I am going to look into this further, thanks for the info!

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Just because the trial will become watered down doesn't mean that you cannot test your dog with real pressure in training. I think that people who are interested in producing serious dogs will still make sure that the dogs they breed are well tested despite what is happening on the trial fields. I know that we have put a lot more pressure on my dog in training than he will ever see in a trial.
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