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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Great Mills, MD
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So, I've been doing a lot of Sch research recently as this is something I would like to try with my next GSD pup.
One thing that I came across that no one seemed to agree on is if Sch dogs can play/interact with the non-Sch dogs in the house. When I was in SAR training, the head trainer stated that neither of his dogs had ever interracted with one another outside of the occasional 'pass and sniff', but past that, nothing. Another one of the group members that I really respected had her own personal pack of I think six dogs. She said they all played with one another constantly and all lived inside. Both the head trainer's dogs and the other members' dogs performed their jobs without an issue. There was another dog in our house while we were training and they had full access to one another and got along famously. The one dog was well over 10, so they weren't rough housing, but they would play in the backyard together. I never had any issue with Finn and training; it was like he understood that it was time for "work". His entire demeanour changed from being a goofball to being truly aloof and just not caring about anyone or anything around him except for me. So, do you allow your dogs to interract with one another, or are they only allowed to have an accidental 'pass and sniff', but stay sequestered until it's training/trial time?
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
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My schH dog is with my companion dog almost 24/7 unless we are out training together. They usually walk with one another as well.
Never had an issue with either dog in training (even if the other dog is present) with focus or performing. Both of my dogs could care less about any other dog... when we are training, Zefra my "schH dog" is so focused it's scary.. hard to distract her which is great for me being a semi-new handler... lol. My dogs are companions first and working partners second. |
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Southern Maryland
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look at it this way. There are some police dogs who go home and are just another dog that are a part of the family. They play with the other dog(s), possibly have a cat for a friend at home too.
I know if you get in touch with Cheryl Goede on The German Shepherd Dog Community on FB, she's got a couple dogs who are training. Havok (GSD) and Khaos(malinois). From pictures she posts, Havok is always playing with the other dogs when he's not "working". Depends on who you ask really.
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Crowned Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
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I think it depends on the dog and the lifestyle and training goals for the handler as well.
If I had a dog and wanted to be the TOP trainer and be on the world team, then the way I raised that dog may look slightly different.. For me, schutzhund is a hobby - one that I devote myself too 100% but it is just still a hobby for me.. I have other interests and do other things with my dogs. |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Yes, my SchH dog is not crated at home and neither is my pet. They are together all day but don't usually interact except for maybe 5 minutes of playing outside when I first get home and they are amped up. They are very good together, just not directly interacting with each other so I've never worried that they like each other more than me or don't have energy left to work.
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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My Schutzhund dog is my pet dog...he sleeps in my room, snuggles on the couch, and trains daily with me. He also plays, snuggles, lounges with several of our other dogs and our kittens.
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: PA
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Other than female to female aggression, my dogs in training are pets and live together....at one point, I had 3 titled females who lived together fine, and one male. Rough play is not allowed in the house, but they would be allowed to run together at the farm where my horse is kept...a couple of times a week I would take 3 - 4 dogs out in a back hayfield and let them run while I went around the perimeter of the field..or just run around in a front field. One female would always have a male companion and right now, I have two older titled dogs and 2 cats free in the house. My male could go to training, and even trial with a female in heat in the truck with him and still concentrate on the work when it came time to get on the field....
Dogs are companions first, and working dogs second....work is only a part of their life day to day. Lee
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 13,807
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I am like the rest, except, like Lee mentions, females that HATE each other. Elena and Vala hang in he house together, sleep on my bed together and get to run and play together outside. Both dogs, though, push me for attention in the house or out on our runs and both are entirely dog neutral.
Deja used to run and play with Donovan. Now she is an "only" dog when she is out with me. Oddly, now that she doesn't have a buddy to play with I am having a few more issues with her being dog focused in training. Nike ran with a group as did Treue. When it was time to work it was all about me. I have met world level competitors that allow dog interaction and others who don't just like some whose competition dogs are also house dog and other have only kennel dogs.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Washington D.C.
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Eyra hangs out with the other two house dogs all day long and no issues at all. They don't really play all that much, the odd wrestling match but that's it. At training or on a search she could care less about other dogs.
Olek is allowed to be free in the house with the other dogs when we are home and he is not particularly interested in them. The odd sniff but that's it. At training he has no interest in any of the other dogs, he is completely focused on the task at hand.
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Charleston, SC
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All three are schutzhund dogs and also companion dogs (companions first and foremost mind you), but they all play together, and they all are in public playing with other dogs frequently
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