Tattoo or Chip

PuppyKono · 01-31-2013, 10:32 PM

I read somewhere that in order to join a membership I need my dog to have a tattoo... Does anyone know if that is USCA? I read it about a month ago then totally forgot where that was from...

Anyway Kono has a chip but i dont know if I would need a tattoo to enter a club or trails... Plus I dont want to buy a $150 reader... Should I get a tattoo? And when? She is already almost 1 years old. Would it be noticeable. Does it have to be done by a registered person?

Jag · 02-01-2013, 01:17 AM

I looked into this. You can have tattoo or chip. If you belong to a club, they usually have a reader you can use. The issue I have is this... I haven't been able to find anyone to tattoo Grim. He's almost seven months. I want him done, because to get an "A-stamp" for his hips, he has to have SV certification. THAT requires a tattoo. You don't have to have a tattoo to trial, though. You also shouldn't have to have a tattoo to join a club. If you're a USCA member, then you have to follow their rules. I read that if the pup is more than 12 weeks, the dog has to be sedated to be tattooed. There are lists of their tattoo people on their site for each region.

hunterisgreat · 02-01-2013, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jag

I looked into this. You can have tattoo or chip. If you belong to a club, they usually have a reader you can use. The issue I have is this... I haven't been able to find anyone to tattoo Grim. He's almost seven months. I want him done, because to get an "A-stamp" for his hips, he has to have SV certification. THAT requires a tattoo. You don't have to have a tattoo to trial, though. You also shouldn't have to have a tattoo to join a club. If you're a USCA member, then you have to follow their rules. I read that if the pup is more than 12 weeks, the dog has to be sedated to be tattooed. There are lists of their tattoo people on their site for each region.

I tattooed Katya at 2 years, no sedation. Just some oral meds... Forget what kind, but powerful enough to make her goofy for an hour.

My dogs are all tat'ed and chip'ed

**Liesje** · 02-01-2013, 08:35 AM

That's weird that the SV would require tattoos for A-stamps but it seems everyone in Germany is switching from tattoos to chips.

I have both done. If the puppy doesn't come tattooed then I'll get it tattooed, hopefully before 3 months.

**lhczth** · 02-01-2013, 09:03 AM

Dogs must have permanent identification (chip or tattoo, I do both) in order to trial with USCA. Not sure if this is true for other breeds, but it is for GSD.

I would check again about the tattoo requirement for the 'a' stamp since Germany no longer tattoos their dogs, but uses chips only.

I still do both because I have seen chips fail or be difficult to read. Had a guy at a trial last fall with a brand new chip (can't remember if it was Avid or Homeagain) who had driven to IN from VA. The chip didn't want to read with two different universal readers. I worked on it for the club since I had my reader with me. Then I tried a trick a friend showed me running magnets over the dog and tried again. Finally the chip showed up. Most clubs are not going to spend the time and that person would have made a very long trip for nothing.

szariksdad · 02-01-2013, 11:12 AM

For DVG they have made the requirement that you dog have a chip and and the chip will now be read at all trials to make sure they are in the dog. Or at least that was the big surprise at the most recent trial I went to hwere a lot of owners could not find the chip in their dog with a judge using the readr and so a couple of competitors were DQ'd for it.

**lhczth** · 02-01-2013, 01:44 PM

The chips are a huge issue and if the chip fails, replacing it in a dog that has already been titled is a big hassle.

FG167 · 02-01-2013, 05:22 PM

My dog has 2 chips and a tattoo. I prefer the tat. I believe a vet can do it with a pen type tool? My dog was done very young in his ear...

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onyx'girl · 02-01-2013, 06:47 PM

Chips also migrate so scanning down the legs should be done if you can't find it with magnet help. Karlo's has moved just a bit from the center of his shoulder, Kacie's is down her shoulder.
I think anyone that is using chips for ID, should practice w/ the scanner now and then to know exactly where the chip is and if it is working.

That and the dog conditioned to being approached and scanned just like you'd do in trial scenario.
Karlo isn't real keen on anyone approaching him with brushes or scanners...something we have to work on. Though he's got a really nice readable tattoo, I hope just showing his ear will be enough!

Jag · 02-01-2013, 06:59 PM

I just can't find anyone to do the tat!

I'll drive all day if I can find someone to do it! Oh, and I just looked up the SV thing the other day, but maybe the site isn't up to date?

01-31-2013, 10:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
PuppyKono Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 159	Tattoo or Chip I read somewhere that in order to join a membership I need my dog to have a tattoo... Does anyone know if that is USCA? I read it about a month ago then totally forgot where that was from... Anyway Kono has a chip but i dont know if I would need a tattoo to enter a club or trails... Plus I dont want to buy a $150 reader... Should I get a tattoo? And when? She is already almost 1 years old. Would it be noticeable. Does it have to be done by a registered person? __________________ Kono ~ 2/25/12 "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." -Will Rogers

02-01-2013, 01:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jag Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,683	I looked into this. You can have tattoo or chip. If you belong to a club, they usually have a reader you can use. The issue I have is this... I haven't been able to find anyone to tattoo Grim. He's almost seven months. I want him done, because to get an "A-stamp" for his hips, he has to have SV certification. THAT requires a tattoo. You don't have to have a tattoo to trial, though. You also shouldn't have to have a tattoo to join a club. If you're a USCA member, then you have to follow their rules. I read that if the pup is more than 12 weeks, the dog has to be sedated to be tattooed. There are lists of their tattoo people on their site for each region. __________________ Wrath of Grim z Dragon "Mr. Grim"- Threaten my handler. I dare you.

02-01-2013, 08:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Liesje Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 16,270	That's weird that the SV would require tattoos for A-stamps but it seems everyone in Germany is switching from tattoos to chips. I have both done. If the puppy doesn't come tattooed then I'll get it tattooed, hopefully before 3 months. __________________ Liesje & the K9s Nikon (GSD) U-CH SG Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 KKL T1 FO PA TF-III FDCh-S CL1-R UJJ U-CA HIT TT CGC Coke (All-American) VPC's Coca-Cola CGC, couch warmer extraordinaire Indy (All-American) Blue Horizon's Indigo Girl, flyball star in training Rainbow Bridge Kenya (GSD) U-CH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop CL1-R CL1-F RA HIT TDI TT CGC vom Blauen Horizont / Blue Horizon GSDs

02-01-2013, 09:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 13,730	Dogs must have permanent identification (chip or tattoo, I do both) in order to trial with USCA. Not sure if this is true for other breeds, but it is for GSD. I would check again about the tattoo requirement for the 'a' stamp since Germany no longer tattoos their dogs, but uses chips only. I still do both because I have seen chips fail or be difficult to read. Had a guy at a trial last fall with a brand new chip (can't remember if it was Avid or Homeagain) who had driven to IN from VA. The chip didn't want to read with two different universal readers. I worked on it for the club since I had my reader with me. Then I tried a trick a friend showed me running magnets over the dog and tried again. Finally the chip showed up. Most clubs are not going to spend the time and that person would have made a very long trip for nothing. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

02-01-2013, 01:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 13,730	The chips are a huge issue and if the chip fails, replacing it in a dog that has already been titled is a big hassle. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

02-01-2013, 11:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
szariksdad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Denver,CO Posts: 265	For DVG they have made the requirement that you dog have a chip and and the chip will now be read at all trials to make sure they are in the dog. Or at least that was the big surprise at the most recent trial I went to hwere a lot of owners could not find the chip in their dog with a judge using the readr and so a couple of competitors were DQ'd for it.

02-01-2013, 05:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
FG167 Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 1,537	Tattoo or Chip My dog has 2 chips and a tattoo. I prefer the tat. I believe a vet can do it with a pen type tool? My dog was done very young in his ear... Sent from Petguide.com Free App __________________ ~ Falon ~ Eden (Corgi) Kastle (GSD) Limit (Kelpie) Aikon (GSD) Topsy & Turvy (Bengals)

02-01-2013, 06:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 21,196	Chips also migrate so scanning down the legs should be done if you can't find it with magnet help. Karlo's has moved just a bit from the center of his shoulder, Kacie's is down her shoulder. I think anyone that is using chips for ID, should practice w/ the scanner now and then to know exactly where the chip is and if it is working. That and the dog conditioned to being approached and scanned just like you'd do in trial scenario. Karlo isn't real keen on anyone approaching him with brushes or scanners...something we have to work on. Though he's got a really nice readable tattoo, I hope just showing his ear will be enough! __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

02-01-2013, 06:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jag Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,683	I just can't find anyone to do the tat! I'll drive all day if I can find someone to do it! Oh, and I just looked up the SV thing the other day, but maybe the site isn't up to date? __________________ Wrath of Grim z Dragon "Mr. Grim"- Threaten my handler. I dare you.

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