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Old 01-19-2013, 08:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question give and take

My trainer made a statement I didn't question directly.... he said "there would be some conflict with wanting a schutzhund titled family pet".... that "there would be things I'd have to tolerate from a schutzhund I wouldn't have to tolerate with a family pet" .... I didn't question him out of some false sense of not wanting him to question my resolve to follow this through or let him down or something :P... I think that's something that carried over from here where some folks questioned my ability and/or commitment .... lol... before I even got my feet wet... hahaha
Anyhow, what are some things might he have been talking about?
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The only thing I can think of is maybe a higher prey drive? Its silly because a pet GSD can have a high prey drive and it needs an outlet for its energy just like a working dog needs an outlet. Is this trainer a regular obedience trainer?
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You should have asked him to clarify. Because what he said is his opinion and people on the forums can't interpret what he implied.
For my dog that I train in the sport, he is treated just like my other two that I don't train in it.
Though he is 'in training' way more, but I don't over crate him, or let him get away with things because he's a "schutzhund dog".
When you don't understand a statement or theory someone is working with you on, it is best to ask to avoid any confusion. Remember the only question that's dumb is the one that isn't asked!
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The only thing I can think of is maybe a higher prey drive? Its silly because a pet GSD can have a high prey drive and it needs an outlet for its energy just like a working dog needs an outlet. Is this trainer a regular obedience trainer?
He specializes in schutzhund and French Ring..... he works for Dave Kroyer at Canine Headquarters in Hutto Tx
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I find that everyone who has told me this in the past has *gasp* never OWNED a SchH dog as an indoor pet, lol! It's like the folks that told me I couldn't do SchH *and* another dog sport at the same time. Those people never did more than SchH with their dogs. I don't really listen to people who tell me I can't do this or that when they have absolutely no experience with the matter. Everyone will raise their own dogs as they see fit.
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I find that everyone who has told me this in the past has *gasp* never OWNED a SchH dog as an indoor pet, lol! It's like the folks that told me I couldn't do SchH *and* another dog sport at the same time. Those people never did more than SchH with their dogs. I don't really listen to people who tell me I can't do this or that when they have absolutely no experience with the matter. Everyone will raise their own dogs as they see fit.
Kind of what I was thinking... he told me he has 13 personal dogs he works in ring and schutzhund.... I'm not picturing him lounging around the house with them ..... lol
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I mean, on some level he's right, but there's *always* give and take, no matter how you choose to raise and manage your dogs. You do what's best for YOU. I have found that I look for the same qualities in my house pets as I do in my "working" dogs.
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Odie has a SchH1. She is a fine family pet. She is awesome with people of all shapes and sizes, babies, children, other dogs -- no problem. The ONLY thing I wish was different was her heeling, but as that has nothing to do with her ability to be a family pet, I am not sure what your trainer is talking about.
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Well, most people come on here and ask how to get their puppy to STOP biting them. When you have a puppy with Schutzhund in their future you do NOT want to stop the biting. You want to redirect it to the correct object but NEVER try to stop it (even when they get you by mistake).

Some Schutzhund people will not do ANY obedience training until the dog is older - around a year or so. Most "pet" people would not be able to live with a dog that has no obedience.
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Well, most people come on here and ask how to get their puppy to STOP biting them. When you have a puppy with Schutzhund in their future you do NOT want to stop the biting. You want to redirect it to the correct object but NEVER try to stop it (even when they get you by mistake).

Some Schutzhund people will not do ANY obedience training until the dog is older - around a year or so. Most "pet" people would not be able to live with a dog that has no obedience.
All of this plus:
Not correcting the dog for jumping on people. If you teach the dog to not jump on people as a puppy then it won't jump on/at the helper/decoy. Once dog is old enough it can start to learn manners but after it is clear about the differences.

I'm trying to think of more things I have been told or heard.
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