What percentage of GSD owners do Schh?

ponyfarm · 12-29-2012, 11:20 AM

I just got to thinking about how the gsd is the second most registered breed in the USA. But, when I am out and about socializing my dogs, I rarely see another gsd. We are always "odd man out"!

So, I was hoping when we went to OG INDY that we would see a ton of dogs. Unfortunately, just a few, maybe 30 dogs attended.

JUst curious as to what percentage of owners actually particpate in the sport..or is it just mainly for those wanting to title dogs for breeding?

As a secondary question..what percentage of gsd's are working line vs show line? I feel like it is way more show line.

Just a few random questions, as my feet got cold playing with the dogs and we came in to warm up!

gaia_bear · 12-29-2012, 11:27 AM

We just started participating in Schh, no intentions of breeding. Started out as me wanting to do something that she'd would enjoy more than a class, now a couple months in I'm hooked. She's a backyard line but doing my homework for when it's time to bring home a working line.

Oddly enough my club is dominated by Giant Schnauzers, there's only two GSDs and I rarely see any when I'm out with her.

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llombardo · 12-29-2012, 01:22 PM

I think if it wasn't so expensive and time consuming lots more people would do it. Mine qualified, but I chose to do agility instead. I'm not 100% sure what mine is, but I "believe" she comes from a working line and show line...I think she is 50/50. She has the look of the show line(from what I've been told) and the personality and prey drive are definitely working line, which is why I believe she qualified for schutzhund to begin with. When I took her for her evaluation they did not think she was going to qualify based on her looks...they pretty much said that she didn't look to have any german lines in her, etc. Boy did they change their minds when she got out there....the trainer was pleasantly surprised and I was very proud

onyx'girl · 12-29-2012, 01:29 PM

In my area, only about 4 of us do SchH and we all go to different clubs! I know of several local GSD owners who have no clue what SchH even is.
Having dogs that are cut out for it makes it even harder...out of my 3 GSD's, only one has what it takes.

**Liesje** · 12-29-2012, 01:52 PM

In my experience more people are participating for the fun of it (or earning titles) than for breeding. I know way more people that don't breed than those who do.

I think in the USA a very small percentage of GSD owners do SchH. I mean, these days when I go to an event I can name almost every person there and I haven't been doing this long. It's a small, tight-knit community even though the availability of training is very spread out across the nation.

wolfstraum · 12-29-2012, 02:14 PM

I would think that less than 5 -7% of GSD litters registered with AKC are Euro bred to SV or even partially SV standards and probably not even half of those get schutzhund trained....

Lee

Magwart · 12-29-2012, 02:20 PM

My obedience trainer's socialization group has at least 16 GSDs who regularly attend to play together in and open field Saturday mornings (out of about 40 total dogs in the group, which also includes a few Malinois other working breeds). All have pretty good basic obedience training. Exactly zero do Schutzhund--or any other competitive trials. They are all happy, well-adjusted family dogs. We spend a lot of time with our dogs, enjoying them--just in a different way.

wolfstraum · 12-29-2012, 02:53 PM

the biggest problem in doing IPO/Schutzhund is the scarcity of

Clubs
Helper/Decoys
GOOD Helper/Decoys

and the overbundance of ego/drama/BS in clubs

Lee

robk · 12-29-2012, 03:19 PM

I think the percentage of GSDs that do Schutzhund is so low it would not even reach 1%. I have barely even met anyone who even knows what it is. (out side of those who I know who are active participants).

ponyfarm · 12-29-2012, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robk

I think the percentage of GSDs that do Schutzhund is so low it would not even reach 1%. I have barely even met anyone who even knows what it is. (out side of those who I know who are active participants).

Using logical thinking:
A reputable breeder uses dogs that are titled in schh
Very few owners/breeders do schh
thus, the majority of titled dogs must be imported

Right?

12-29-2012, 11:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
ponyfarm Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 985	What percentage of GSD owners do Schh? I just got to thinking about how the gsd is the second most registered breed in the USA. But, when I am out and about socializing my dogs, I rarely see another gsd. We are always "odd man out"! So, I was hoping when we went to OG INDY that we would see a ton of dogs. Unfortunately, just a few, maybe 30 dogs attended. JUst curious as to what percentage of owners actually particpate in the sport..or is it just mainly for those wanting to title dogs for breeding? As a secondary question..what percentage of gsd's are working line vs show line? I feel like it is way more show line. Just a few random questions, as my feet got cold playing with the dogs and we came in to warm up! __________________ Max Von Zahnderhaus -CGC- DOB 2/14/2012 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=1353416 Tim the Collie- RN -DOB 4/01/2010

12-29-2012, 11:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
gaia_bear Master Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 584	We just started participating in Schh, no intentions of breeding. Started out as me wanting to do something that she'd would enjoy more than a class, now a couple months in I'm hooked. She's a backyard line but doing my homework for when it's time to bring home a working line. Oddly enough my club is dominated by Giant Schnauzers, there's only two GSDs and I rarely see any when I'm out with her. Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App __________________ Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole - Roger Caras Courtney M. Gaia-GSD 03/09/2012

12-29-2012, 01:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
llombardo Crowned Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,938	I think if it wasn't so expensive and time consuming lots more people would do it. Mine qualified, but I chose to do agility instead. I'm not 100% sure what mine is, but I "believe" she comes from a working line and show line...I think she is 50/50. She has the look of the show line(from what I've been told) and the personality and prey drive are definitely working line, which is why I believe she qualified for schutzhund to begin with. When I took her for her evaluation they did not think she was going to qualify based on her looks...they pretty much said that she didn't look to have any german lines in her, etc. Boy did they change their minds when she got out there....the trainer was pleasantly surprised and I was very proud __________________ Misty- Samoyed Mix Tannor- Golden Retriever CGC Robyn- German Shepherd CGC Cats-Thunder, Harley, Miley, Bandit, and Ferah RIP Boo..Black Lab "A dog is the only thing on this earth that loves you more than he loves himself."

12-29-2012, 01:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 21,189	In my area, only about 4 of us do SchH and we all go to different clubs! I know of several local GSD owners who have no clue what SchH even is. Having dogs that are cut out for it makes it even harder...out of my 3 GSD's, only one has what it takes. __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

12-29-2012, 01:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Liesje Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 16,252	In my experience more people are participating for the fun of it (or earning titles) than for breeding. I know way more people that don't breed than those who do. I think in the USA a very small percentage of GSD owners do SchH. I mean, these days when I go to an event I can name almost every person there and I haven't been doing this long. It's a small, tight-knit community even though the availability of training is very spread out across the nation. __________________ Liesje & Nikon vom Blauen Horizont / Blue Horizon GSDs

12-29-2012, 02:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 8,203	I would think that less than 5 -7% of GSD litters registered with AKC are Euro bred to SV or even partially SV standards and probably not even half of those get schutzhund trained.... Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Komet, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB~ Kougar Sch3, Kyra Sch3, Cito Sch2, Alice Sch1, Kelsey CD, Ret ~ Basha Sch3, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

12-29-2012, 02:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Magwart Master Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 573	My obedience trainer's socialization group has at least 16 GSDs who regularly attend to play together in and open field Saturday mornings (out of about 40 total dogs in the group, which also includes a few Malinois other working breeds). All have pretty good basic obedience training. Exactly zero do Schutzhund--or any other competitive trials. They are all happy, well-adjusted family dogs. We spend a lot of time with our dogs, enjoying them--just in a different way.

12-29-2012, 02:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 8,203	the biggest problem in doing IPO/Schutzhund is the scarcity of Clubs Helper/Decoys GOOD Helper/Decoys and the overbundance of ego/drama/BS in clubs Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Komet, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB~ Kougar Sch3, Kyra Sch3, Cito Sch2, Alice Sch1, Kelsey CD, Ret ~ Basha Sch3, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

12-29-2012, 03:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
robk Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,527	I think the percentage of GSDs that do Schutzhund is so low it would not even reach 1%. I have barely even met anyone who even knows what it is. (out side of those who I know who are active participants).

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