all this whip stimulation - rant??? - German Shepherd Dog Forums

Increase font size: 0, 10, 25, 50%

GermanShepherds.com is the premier German Shepherd Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-15-2012, 05:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
x11
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,291
Default all this whip stimulation - rant???

so yeah seems to be the in thing these days to go to a training field and every other person is cracking a whip. seen guys take there dogs into the quiet of the car park to do obed cos the dog has been conditioned to go into drive and look for the bite when it hears a whip, usually ends up the dog being corrected for not being fully there in the obed - poor dog has been classically conditioned from birth to go into drive and look to bite at the sound of a whip???

also seeing more vids from euro with prospects being advertised dogs lined up on tables and the trainer walks down the line cracking the whip and the dogs going nuts for the sleeve.

we have puppy factories but to me these are just heavy duty training factories - get a dog nuts in drive for the sleeve due to whip stimulation, makes for good 2 minute vid to send to rich american buyers and see a dog all spit, fire and fang for the sleeve.

to me it seems to be a form of escape training, - as long as your trying to swallow the sleeve you will avoid a niggling sting to the feet. screw that type of training - only reason i use a whip is to desensitise my dog to the sound of a whip so it means absolutely nothing to the dog.

i would have moved my dog on if i had to use whip stimulation to get him into drive for the bite.


rant off.
x11 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-16-2012, 10:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
hunterisgreat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 3,622
Default

I watched a great video about how and when to use a whip. As a result, there is very little whip cracking when I train now
__________________
Hunter, USA trial helper, Charleston Working Dog Club Training Helper/Training Director
Beschützer des Jägers v. Sportwaffen, HOT, IPO1, AD, CGC
Katya v. Hügelblick, HOT, IPO2, CGC
SG Aska v. Ketscher Wald, 2 x SchH3, Kkl 1
hunterisgreat is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-16-2012, 07:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
x11
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,291
Default

cool, a vid you can share? i want others i know to see it.
x11 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-17-2012, 12:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
Jag
Knighted Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,683
Default

Maybe you're at the wrong club.
__________________
Wrath of Grim z Dragon
"Mr. Grim"- Threaten my handler. I dare you.
Jag is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-17-2012, 09:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
summercricks's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 45
Default

A whip is a training tool and I think it can be used but shouldn't be used so much that the dog should be reliant on it. I don't think it should be used once the dog is older and doesn't need as much stimulation in training.


Sent from my iPod touch using PG Free
__________________
Rayna Rose-GSD CGC
Scooter & Cricket-Rat terriers
Rusty-JRT RIP 12/25/05-8/22/12
summercricks is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:25 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com