What I don't get is a lot of the dogs I see crawling (especially when anticipating the attack exercise) are then very slow on the attack, don't put much power in the bite and/or actually slide down or off the sleeve. So if the dog is crawling out of drive and desire to bite then why is the overall picture so poor?
Very good question Lies. I will say this however, in the other thread, I used the crawling behavior in my comments, to try to clarify what I was talking about. Didn't work.
It was not the main point, just a comment about the behavior I saw in certain dogs years ago .
It is an odd behavior and other trainers, (who have trained almost as long or longer than I have), have seen it as well and are of the same " WTH?" mentality. lol.
It is a level of dullness, non-compliance, resistance to correction, shut down behavior that makes these dogs almost un-trainable and certainly unpleasant to train. It is not drive related nor is it a result of brutal compulsion. I almost wrote a book about it on the euro list when Caro Allerswald was discussed.
With the SL dogs who were like this, if you could get them to respond, it was the "oh you just killed me" behavior. The Bungalow dogs would just fight with you.....bite, resist and only comply with the least amount of effort possible. No, it is not a drive related behavior. It is something else entirely.
That's all I have to say, it is not possible to make it clear on a forum, you have to see it and experience it.