Jim Alloway: president
Frank Phillips: VP
Michelle Scarberry: Sec
Sean O'Kane: Treas
Frank Phillips: VP
Michelle Scarberry: Sec
Sean O'Kane: Treas
Exactly. Both organizations have things to offer me that the other doesn't and I don't appreciate being limited for whatever political agendas I could not care less about. The WDA, at least the clubs in my area, only ever use SV judges so it's nice to know that your title, show card, breed survey, or dental certification is going to hold up anywhere regardless and no one can pull the rug out from under your dog over politics that do not involve you or the work you did to title. Most if not all of the USCA events in my area use USCA or USCA-SV judges whose titles and ratings are not necessarily accepted outside of USCA. USCA hardly offers any shows or breed surveys, but they do offer a vast number of trial opportunities in my area where WDA does not. I've always done both and will continue to do both since my dog has both scorebooks and despite USCA insisting you cannot have two, they have to recognize the SV titles in my WDA book (I also do RKNA and SDA events in my area). But it's annoying and expensive having to pay extra fees for not being a member of one organization or finding a co-owner to join the other. I guess what bothers me the most about the JA is that the people who support it as far as I don't know really have any experience with the WDA. I am a founding member of a WDA club and have entered and attended many WDA events including shows, trial, and Sieger Show but someone who has no experience with their club can tell me I can't join it because they don't like it? To me it just seems juvenile. People insist it's for the protection of the breed....yeah right, it's for their own agenda and their idea of how a club should be run and who should run it, is all.Most folks from both organizations are just people who want to train and trial their dogs and do the best for the breed with no interest in the politics of it. Many of us have to drive long distances as it is.....accessibility is important.
How does USCA police it? They issued me their scorebook which was the second scorebook and have never objected to the existence of the original one or having it produced as proof at their events. What does the FCI want people to do, burn their scorebooks? I'm not going to repeat titles issued by SV judges over politics that doesn't mean much to me.From page 12 of FCI rules:
"Scorebook
A scorebook is mandatory for every participating dog. Issuance of the scorebook is done according to the
instructions of the handler’s corresponding National Organization. Important to note, only one
scorebook may be issued per dog."
So this is NOT something that UScA is doing. This is a FCI rule and YOU are violating the rule and so is the organization that allows you to use 2 scorebooks. Just so you have the correct information
Frank
This is the rule as of Jan1 2012. Only one scorebook will be filled out at any event you enter. You are not expected to repeat titles, but it is on you to folloow the rules and to submit one scorebook from now on, not switch back and fiorth between the 2. Since Jan 1, 2012 only 1 book should be issued.How does USCA police it? They issued me their scorebook which was the second scorebook and have never objected to the existence of the original one or having it produced as proof at their events. What does the FCI want people to do, burn their scorebooks? I'm not going to repeat titles issued by SV judges over politics that doesn't mean much to me.
This is also NOT correct. WDA, just like UScA has their own judges, some are SV recognized some are not. But I beleive the SV recognized ones in both are still not for breeding in GermanyI get the "USCA standing with the SV" thing but it's confusing because the SV won't recognize the breed surveys. I'm told that the "USCA-SV" judges are *not* recognized as SV judges while the WDA events are always judged by SV judges.
This is only if you are one of the 3 or 4 people in the US that plan to ship your dog to breed and/or whelp IN Germany. But just like in WDA, if you use a UScA/SV Judge or a SV Judge then I believe the Koer is "recognized" in Germany, just not for breeding IN Germany.When you look at which organization offers SV show cards, SV titles, and SV breed surveys it's the WDA. I keep being told I need to do a WDA breed survey if I want the SV to always recognize it (though I'm not doing this, because I'm a member of USCA and their titles and surveys suit me just fine since I live in the USA).