Gnash's SchH2 protection video

Packen · 12-29-2011, 11:37 AM

We trained the silent guard after having control issues, it worked! Now we are switching him back to active guarding, always fun with this dog

Made a couple of handling errors worth ~6 points, overall very happy with his progress. Let me know what you think. Big thanks to Jason and Fallon for the vid.

Gnash SchH2 Protection - YouTube

gagsd · 12-29-2011, 01:12 PM

First.... excellent videography!

Really nice routine. He seems very clear-headed and strong.

**Castlemaid** · 12-29-2011, 01:49 PM

Good control work. Made me smile how he started barking at the helper after the long bite, waiting for you to approach - did that cost any points?

Packen · 12-29-2011, 03:21 PM

Thanks Mary and Lucia. Where I lost him points were in the call-out and the final out after the long bite. For the call-out I really went loud so totally changed the tone, cost me an additional command and movement on my part to help him get back into basic position.

After the long bite I had lost my brain and thought the judge will signal me to command the out! when I regained my brain cell it was too late and he outed a sec before my command, judge saw that. We normally out 3 seconds after the helper locks up in training.

I don't think the barking during the guard after long bite cost me anything, he likes to bark during the guard but would get too high so we put OB there and had him sit for a good 8 months (I commanded sit instead of aus). Now that he is clear we will free him up to bark during the guard.

gagsd · 12-29-2011, 03:26 PM

Yep, I heard the "Hier" really well in the call-out, but the fuss part, not so much.

I enjoyed watching the video as my Ari dog is a "relative" of your Gnash. We are working the "barely under control" (and sometimes not) phase right now. I was impressed with how clear, and yet not stressed, Gnash looks.

Jason L · 12-29-2011, 04:05 PM

Way to go, Packen and Gnash!!! Congrats again of his SchH2!

Never get tired of watching that boy ... Wish I had filmed that insane long bite the day before the trial, you know that one I am talking about!

Lynn_P · 12-29-2011, 05:46 PM

Nice routine...nice control...

Northern GSDs · 12-29-2011, 08:14 PM

Very nice and nice dog

Another huge congrats to you and your boy!

Packen · 12-29-2011, 09:11 PM

Thanks everyone, appreciate your comments. Jason, I remember that long bite very clearly and the flip Gnash did in the air + the tumbling on the ground with the sleeve in his mouth + Randal's comment "too fast and hard I could not hold him". That would have been a cool video

I am just very Leary of the long bite with the potential for injury to the helper and/or the dog.

Jason L · 12-30-2011, 08:22 AM

I don't blame you. Gnash is an absolute kamikazi on the long bite and we are running out of helpers! That boy is just wired differently.

I can't wait to see what you guys will do at the Regional in Feb. I hear the plan is to really "free him up" in protection! Sweet!

12-29-2011, 11:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
Packen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 479	Gnash's SchH2 protection video We trained the silent guard after having control issues, it worked! Now we are switching him back to active guarding, always fun with this dog Made a couple of handling errors worth ~6 points, overall very happy with his progress. Let me know what you think. Big thanks to Jason and Fallon for the vid. Gnash SchH2 Protection - YouTube __________________ Gnash von den Sportwaffen IPO3x2, AD, HOT Brimwylf Creasy Last edited by Packen; 12-29-2011 at 11:40 AM.

12-29-2011, 01:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
gagsd Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: georgia Posts: 2,972	First.... excellent videography! Really nice routine. He seems very clear-headed and strong. __________________ Animals do not have rights. Owners have responsibilities. www.columbusworkingdogs.com

12-29-2011, 01:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Castlemaid Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 9,089	Good control work. Made me smile how he started barking at the helper after the long bite, waiting for you to approach - did that cost any points? __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD (HOT) Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH, OFA Good (HOT) "Bites Through the Sleeve" Cuddlebug, b: Mar 2009

12-29-2011, 03:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Packen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 479	Thanks Mary and Lucia. Where I lost him points were in the call-out and the final out after the long bite. For the call-out I really went loud so totally changed the tone, cost me an additional command and movement on my part to help him get back into basic position. After the long bite I had lost my brain and thought the judge will signal me to command the out! when I regained my brain cell it was too late and he outed a sec before my command, judge saw that. We normally out 3 seconds after the helper locks up in training. I don't think the barking during the guard after long bite cost me anything, he likes to bark during the guard but would get too high so we put OB there and had him sit for a good 8 months (I commanded sit instead of aus). Now that he is clear we will free him up to bark during the guard. __________________ Gnash von den Sportwaffen IPO3x2, AD, HOT Brimwylf Creasy

12-29-2011, 03:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
gagsd Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: georgia Posts: 2,972	Yep, I heard the "Hier" really well in the call-out, but the fuss part, not so much. I enjoyed watching the video as my Ari dog is a "relative" of your Gnash. We are working the "barely under control" (and sometimes not) phase right now. I was impressed with how clear, and yet not stressed, Gnash looks. __________________ Animals do not have rights. Owners have responsibilities. www.columbusworkingdogs.com

12-29-2011, 04:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jason L Knighted Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,980	Way to go, Packen and Gnash!!! Congrats again of his SchH2! Never get tired of watching that boy ... Wish I had filmed that insane long bite the day before the trial, you know that one I am talking about!

12-29-2011, 05:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lynn_P Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 8,852	Nice routine...nice control... __________________ *~Lynn~* *Dante v. Wildhaus, SchH 3 (HOT)* *Laos v. Hünxer Wald (My Wild Child)* *Novak v. d. Alte Baum (puppy in training)* *Jackson, RIP, I miss you bud.*

12-29-2011, 08:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Northern GSDs Master Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 663	Very nice and nice dog Another huge congrats to you and your boy!

12-29-2011, 09:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Packen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 479	Thanks everyone, appreciate your comments. Jason, I remember that long bite very clearly and the flip Gnash did in the air + the tumbling on the ground with the sleeve in his mouth + Randal's comment "too fast and hard I could not hold him". That would have been a cool video I am just very Leary of the long bite with the potential for injury to the helper and/or the dog. __________________ Gnash von den Sportwaffen IPO3x2, AD, HOT Brimwylf Creasy

12-30-2011, 08:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jason L Knighted Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,980	I don't blame you. Gnash is an absolute kamikazi on the long bite and we are running out of helpers! That boy is just wired differently. I can't wait to see what you guys will do at the Regional in Feb. I hear the plan is to really "free him up" in protection! Sweet!

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