Pike del Lupo Nero

robk · 11-18-2011, 08:34 AM

What are your thoughts on this stud dog?

Pike del Lupo Nero BSP 2011 - YouTube

**lhczth** · 11-18-2011, 10:02 AM

Are you asking about the dog himself or his performance? If the former I will probably move this into the breeding section.

**lhczth** · 11-18-2011, 10:23 AM

Without picking apart the performance of a dog on the forum (who didn't ask to be put here), I will only say I don't like his guarding in either the blind nor on the field. His H&B sounds good, but I personally find close guarding on the man much more powerful and convincing.

cliffson1 · 11-18-2011, 03:13 PM

I liked his tracking and responsiveness in tracking. Much more realistic than footprint to footprint without compromising results.

robk · 11-18-2011, 06:38 PM

I love this dog's intensity. Lisa, you are right, I probably shouldn't have posted this here. If he was my dog, I wouldn't want a bunch of unsolicited criticism.

GSDElsa · 11-18-2011, 07:09 PM

Do you guys think the tracking video was sped up? Something seems artificially quick about it......but it coul djust be the quality of the video.

mareg · 11-21-2011, 09:09 AM

Looks like a very nice dog. You cant judge the dog in trial....you would have to see it in training to know what it is about.

Many dogs guard a little sleeve side but this was a bit much. Probably had nothing to do with the dog.

I will probably never own a dog this nice.

Fitz152 · 03-09-2012, 08:47 PM

Pike is currently one of the most sought after stud dogs in Germany. Some of the best kennels in Europe are breeding to him, such as: v. Tiekerhook, v.d. Döllenwiese, del Lupo Nero, v.d. Wannaer Höhen, v. dunklen Zwinger, and Anrebri. Pike’s littermate, Polly, was the 2011 SV Universal Siegerin. Three dogs from the P-litter are “V” rated in conformation, SchH3, and KKL1.

His full brother from a previous litter is Nick del Lupo Nero.

Nick is from a litter of four, ALL littermates are titled to at least a SchH2 and have SV a-stamp certified hips and elbows. Nick’s littermates Nox and Nell both competed in the LGA. Both Nox and Nell are also “V” rated in conformation. Nell was retained as a breeding female for the kennel “del Lupo Nero.” Nox was also used quite a bit in Germany before being sold to Thailand and is the father of Drago v. Patriot who, along with Pike, is dominating the breeding scene in Germany. Nick is in Kentucky and a top competition dog in our country.

He is a great dog!

robk · 03-09-2012, 10:18 PM

Fitz152, Thank you for posting this and welcome to the forum. I love Pike. He is one of my favorite dogs in Europe right now. I may have an opportunity to acquire a Pike pup later this year or some time next year depending on when my contact in Holland is able to put together the breeding.

Catu · 03-09-2012, 10:21 PM

A friend I train with owns Tork del Lupo Nero and he is one of the best dogs I've ever seen. Good aggression, nice tracking and a joy to be around.

11-18-2011, 10:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,698	Are you asking about the dog himself or his performance? If the former I will probably move this into the breeding section. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

11-18-2011, 10:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,698	Without picking apart the performance of a dog on the forum (who didn't ask to be put here), I will only say I don't like his guarding in either the blind nor on the field. His H&B sounds good, but I personally find close guarding on the man much more powerful and convincing. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

11-18-2011, 07:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
GSDElsa Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central, NY Posts: 3,706	Do you guys think the tracking video was sped up? Something seems artificially quick about it......but it coul djust be the quality of the video. __________________ Justine, mom to: - Elsa - BrightStar Rescue - "Da Pookins" - Medo Aritar Bastet - "The Beast From The East"

03-09-2012, 10:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
robk Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 572	Fitz152, Thank you for posting this and welcome to the forum. I love Pike. He is one of my favorite dogs in Europe right now. I may have an opportunity to acquire a Pike pup later this year or some time next year depending on when my contact in Holland is able to put together the breeding. __________________ Honor Von Kaltwasser (GSD) aka "Ruger" Jasmine (GSD) aka "Jazzy" Rip Delilah (GSD) aka "D" Rip http://fayettevilleschutzhundclub.us/

03-09-2012, 10:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
Catu Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Valdivia, Chile Posts: 4,276	A friend I train with owns Tork del Lupo Nero and he is one of the best dogs I've ever seen. Good aggression, nice tracking and a joy to be around. __________________ "The dog does not need to be deranked so much as the people need to learn to act like people worth listening to" Suzanne Clothier. Diabla, my Daemon; SchH A, RH-T A Akela, my Direwolf; Work in Progress Bagheera, Long term puppy host

11-18-2011, 03:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
cliffson1 Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,929	I liked his tracking and responsiveness in tracking. Much more realistic than footprint to footprint without compromising results.

11-18-2011, 06:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
robk Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 572	I love this dog's intensity. Lisa, you are right, I probably shouldn't have posted this here. If he was my dog, I wouldn't want a bunch of unsolicited criticism.

11-21-2011, 09:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
mareg Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 56	Looks like a very nice dog. You cant judge the dog in trial....you would have to see it in training to know what it is about. Many dogs guard a little sleeve side but this was a bit much. Probably had nothing to do with the dog. I will probably never own a dog this nice.

03-09-2012, 08:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
Fitz152 New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5	Pike is currently one of the most sought after stud dogs in Germany. Some of the best kennels in Europe are breeding to him, such as: v. Tiekerhook, v.d. Döllenwiese, del Lupo Nero, v.d. Wannaer Höhen, v. dunklen Zwinger, and Anrebri. Pike’s littermate, Polly, was the 2011 SV Universal Siegerin. Three dogs from the P-litter are “V” rated in conformation, SchH3, and KKL1. His full brother from a previous litter is Nick del Lupo Nero. Nick is from a litter of four, ALL littermates are titled to at least a SchH2 and have SV a-stamp certified hips and elbows. Nick’s littermates Nox and Nell both competed in the LGA. Both Nox and Nell are also “V” rated in conformation. Nell was retained as a breeding female for the kennel “del Lupo Nero.” Nox was also used quite a bit in Germany before being sold to Thailand and is the father of Drago v. Patriot who, along with Pike, is dominating the breeding scene in Germany. Nick is in Kentucky and a top competition dog in our country. He is a great dog!

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