IPO seminars???

cindy_s · 10-19-2011, 12:30 PM

Just wondering. Are there any regions planning on having an IPO seminer? I personally think it would be a great idea. There is nothing that makes you feel worst than dropping points on hander error.
I know I have several little questions, and I'm sure more will pop up. You must give your dog a command to send them on the escape and long bite. But, I read somewhere you can not say pachen. I have worked long and hard with "don't bite and get dirty" when you hear voran with my dog. I don't want to send her to bite with a voran command. Granted, she is on auto-pilot, but I think it culd be confusing to the dog. So what word would be OK to use? Rever?
So, I was just curious, ARE there any regions planning seminars?

**Chris Wild** · 10-19-2011, 12:40 PM

The command on the escape has been a part of IPO for a long time. As have the restrictions against any sort of "bite" command on the IPO escape, and long bite in both IPO adn SchH. Anything that isn't a "bite" command is ok to use. Most people just use something like a release word (free, ok, etc...) or "go" or something like that. I'd never use an existing command that would have other meaning to the dog and don't know anyone who does.

The schedule of events for the USCA Nationals includes a seminar going over the rule changes. So those going to that would have the opportunity to attend, and I'm sure even if USCA doesn't provided more details of the changes people who have been to that seminar will be able to share them.

I'm not aware of any other seminars scheduled, but most judges are happy to answer questions if you just ask them.

Uniballer · 10-19-2011, 12:41 PM

I'm sure you could just say "Go!" or "Go on!". "Get him!" is probably out.

"Voran" has been my command for the long bite since the rule change that forbade "packen". I've always used "revier" for the blind search and guarding.

**Castlemaid** · 10-19-2011, 12:49 PM

So, using the command "Attack" to send your dog would be against the new rules?

schh3fh2 · 10-19-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Castlemaid

So, using the command "Attack" to send your dog would be against the new rules?

Yes...it's also against the exsisting rules too....

Liesje · 10-19-2011, 12:53 PM

"Fass"? (to take, as in, grab hold of, grip, grasp)

**Chris Wild** · 10-19-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Castlemaid

So, using the command "Attack" to send your dog would be against the new rules?

I already is, and has been for several years.

It's all about public perception. Apparently if we just release our dogs from a sit/down and they run off and bite someone, or use some neutral word like "go" and they run off and bite someone, that gives a better impression to the public and makes the dogs seem less dangerous and us less nutty than if we actually tell them to bite and then they bite someone.

**lhczth** · 10-19-2011, 12:57 PM

Makes a ton of sense, doesn't it Chris?

Liesje · 10-19-2011, 12:57 PM

*snort*

schh3fh2 · 10-19-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Liesje

"Fass"? (to take, as in, grab hold of, grip, grasp)

It's still a bite command, just a different language....not allowed.

10-19-2011, 12:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
cindy_s Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: DE Posts: 463	IPO seminars??? Just wondering. Are there any regions planning on having an IPO seminer? I personally think it would be a great idea. There is nothing that makes you feel worst than dropping points on hander error. I know I have several little questions, and I'm sure more will pop up. You must give your dog a command to send them on the escape and long bite. But, I read somewhere you can not say pachen. I have worked long and hard with "don't bite and get dirty" when you hear voran with my dog. I don't want to send her to bite with a voran command. Granted, she is on auto-pilot, but I think it culd be confusing to the dog. So what word would be OK to use? Rever? So, I was just curious, ARE there any regions planning seminars? __________________ Cinzar's Dark Shadow Too (Ruger) CGC, RN 1/8/05 Quinn Z Old Farm (Cues) IPO 1, AD 6/7/09

10-19-2011, 12:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chris Wild Administrator & Alpha Bitch of the Wild Bunch Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 12,604	The command on the escape has been a part of IPO for a long time. As have the restrictions against any sort of "bite" command on the IPO escape, and long bite in both IPO adn SchH. Anything that isn't a "bite" command is ok to use. Most people just use something like a release word (free, ok, etc...) or "go" or something like that. I'd never use an existing command that would have other meaning to the dog and don't know anyone who does. The schedule of events for the USCA Nationals includes a seminar going over the rule changes. So those going to that would have the opportunity to attend, and I'm sure even if USCA doesn't provided more details of the changes people who have been to that seminar will be able to share them. I'm not aware of any other seminars scheduled, but most judges are happy to answer questions if you just ask them. __________________ *Wildhaus Kennels* Kaiser ~ SchH3 CGC TDI (HOT) Raven ~ SchH3 AWD2 PD1 P1 PA T1 UCD URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Della ~ SchHA TR1 PD1 P1 PA T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Wulf ~ SchH1 PD1 P1 T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Heidi ~ BH CD UCD RN URO1 (B/HOT) Jazz ~ Superpup In Training

10-19-2011, 12:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Uniballer Master Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western New York Posts: 666	I'm sure you could just say "Go!" or "Go on!". "Get him!" is probably out. "Voran" has been my command for the long bite since the rule change that forbade "packen". I've always used "revier" for the blind search and guarding. Last edited by Uniballer; 10-19-2011 at 12:44 PM.

10-19-2011, 12:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Castlemaid Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 9,089	So, using the command "Attack" to send your dog would be against the new rules? __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD (HOT) Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH, OFA Good (HOT) "Bites Through the Sleeve" Cuddlebug, b: Mar 2009

10-19-2011, 12:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	"Fass"? (to take, as in, grab hold of, grip, grasp) __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

10-19-2011, 12:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,698	Makes a ton of sense, doesn't it Chris? __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

10-19-2011, 12:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,971	snort __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

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