The new Bundessieger

Mrs.K · 09-25-2011, 11:40 AM

Ginoginelli von Karthago - working-dog.eu

That's the new Bundessieger 2011

dawnandjr · 09-25-2011, 12:21 PM

I like him....nice bloodlines

holland · 09-25-2011, 12:35 PM

Uh...he's got Fero in him

Mrs.K · 09-25-2011, 01:17 PM

We can argue Fero but honestly, that dog is loaded with all the good stuff.

Konotashi · 09-25-2011, 01:20 PM

Is it bad to have Fero in a dog's lineage?

Drop-dead gorgeous dog, btw!

holland · 09-25-2011, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konotashi

Is it bad to have Fero in a dog's lineage?

Drop-dead gorgeous dog, btw!

It depends who you ask

Mrs.K · 09-25-2011, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konotashi

Is it bad to have Fero in a dog's lineage?

Drop-dead gorgeous dog, btw!

The problem with Fero is that he continously produces some fo the best and successful dogs out there, which is why he is used so much but that narrows the diversity and catapults you in a genetic bottleneck. To find dogs without Fero is not that easy, you really have to look for them.

While I do know about the fero problem, as a handler I have no problem with handling a dog that has Fero, however it also supports breeding with Fero so it's kind of like a personal decision. All three of my dogs have Fero.

Konotashi · 09-25-2011, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs.K

The problem with Fero is that he continously produces some fo the best and successful dogs out there, which is why he is used so much but that narrows the diversity and catapults you in a genetic bottleneck. To find dogs without Fero is not that easy, you really have to look for them.

While I do know about the fero problem, as a handler I have no problem with handling a dog that has Fero, however it also supports breeding with Fero so it's kind of like a personal decision. All three of my dogs have Fero.

Ah, I see. Thanks!

Smithie86 · 09-25-2011, 04:08 PM

Gino is an AWESOME dog. He has Jenny's dog Dreschler (Gabor's Drigon's littermate) in his pedigree .
And cool thing is that Kuba, with Tobias, is from Jenny and Jogi's breeding program.

Both Jenny and Jogi work jobs full time, train full time (late at night and weekends). Very focused.

Great that Jogi won the other year and now Jenny has :-).

cliffson1 · 09-25-2011, 04:14 PM

Very nice looking dog and very nice work. For me he has too much of the T litter Narbarschaft(sp), in terms of a breeding choice. Having said that he absolutely comes through whom I think is the best Troll son in Tim Abhfur. This dog produced fabulous working temperament and was an asset in hips in a pedigree. ...Nice dog!!
Now I do think this dog would be fabulous for breeding to a strong Czech female......I'm drooling thinking about that.lol

09-25-2011, 11:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mrs.K Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,381	The new Bundessieger Ginoginelli von Karthago - working-dog.eu That's the new Bundessieger 2011

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dawnandjr Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Macedon, NY Posts: 1,054	I like him....nice bloodlines __________________ Dawn Brogan German Shepherd Yoko von der Burg Austerlitz pedigree information http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...html?id=713938

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Konotashi Knighted Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,380	Is it bad to have Fero in a dog's lineage? Drop-dead gorgeous dog, btw! __________________ Ozzy - Chocolate Pom "In a perfect world, every dog would have a home and every home would have a dog." My Photography

09-25-2011, 04:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
Smithie86 Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Nashville, TN and Budapest HU Posts: 3,810	Gino is an AWESOME dog. He has Jenny's dog Dreschler (Gabor's Drigon's littermate) in his pedigree . And cool thing is that Kuba, with Tobias, is from Jenny and Jogi's breeding program. Both Jenny and Jogi work jobs full time, train full time (late at night and weekends). Very focused. Great that Jogi won the other year and now Jenny has :-). __________________ Sue www.k9imports.com V KK1 Molinari Enzo SCH3,IPO3,VK3,FH(WUSVx3, FCIx4) HOT KK1 Frodo v Biezenhoeve SCH3,IPO3,HPO3 (WUSVx2, FCIx2)HOT KK1 Tarnoki-Felvigyazo Quamatz SCH3 (HOT), KK1 Griff v Tajgetosz SCH3(BHOT)

09-25-2011, 04:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
cliffson1 Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,929	Very nice looking dog and very nice work. For me he has too much of the T litter Narbarschaft(sp), in terms of a breeding choice. Having said that he absolutely comes through whom I think is the best Troll son in Tim Abhfur. This dog produced fabulous working temperament and was an asset in hips in a pedigree. ...Nice dog!! Now I do think this dog would be fabulous for breeding to a strong Czech female......I'm drooling thinking about that.lol Last edited by cliffson1; 09-25-2011 at 04:17 PM.

09-25-2011, 12:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
holland Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,634	Uh...he's got Fero in him

09-25-2011, 01:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mrs.K Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,381	We can argue Fero but honestly, that dog is loaded with all the good stuff.

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