Quick Schutzhung question (Noob, don't rip my head off)

Two · 07-26-2011, 05:35 PM

So I've been researching Schutzhund training a lot, and I am actually going to a facility tomorrow night to check it out and see how the trainer is. I am trying to map out all the trainers in my area and see what one I like the most. I plan to get a WLD in the next year or two and plan on getting competitive. Anyways I have noticed that the dogs will pretty much ALWAYS be staring right at the owner, while heeling, sitting, downing, etc.

I was wondering if there is any way I can start training this at home while he is still small. I do plan on taking him to SchH training quite early on when he is a puppy, but I want to be able to practice at home as well. This is my ultimate goal:

‪USA National SchH/VPG‬&rlm; - YouTube

If anyone has any tips or tricks I can do while training at home that would be nice. Please don't rip my head off, I am a quite new but I have been researching a lot and I only want to learn!

Thanks everyone

(TYPO in title, SORRY)

hunterisgreat · 07-26-2011, 05:51 PM

Reward anytime he is looking at you. Extend how long you require the look slowly. Video didn't work for mr

VomBlack · 07-26-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterisgreat

Reward anytime he is looking at you. Extend how long you require the look slowly. Video didn't work for mr

This. I arm myself with a clicker, and click and reward when I get attention.. slowly drag it out. When it came time to work on attention during heeling I had Odin sit in heel position, said "fuss" and lured him to where I wanted him to pay attention (I prefer my shoulder) and just rewarded the crap out of him for it. I spent some time just doing that, no moving or anything and it really helped work on his overall focus.

Two · 07-26-2011, 06:58 PM

Thanks you two, I will be doing this for sure. Eventually do I get rid of the treats? Because I am pretty sure you can't have treats while doing SchH, at least the Trials?

Let me know! Thanks again.

**Samba** · 07-26-2011, 07:27 PM

Michael Ellis has a DVD that does show the progression pretty well.

mthurston0001 · 07-26-2011, 07:39 PM

Just so you are aware, the rules state the dog must be attentive to the handler. They do not say the dog must maintain eye contact. But it sure looks cool if your dog can do it!

Two · 07-26-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mthurston0001

Just so you are aware, the rules state the dog must be attentive to the handler. They do not say the dog must maintain eye contact. But it sure looks cool if your dog can do it!

Exactly where I am coming from! I'd love for my dog to pay that much attention to me, or look at me while walking. Looks very good.

DanielleOttoMom · 07-26-2011, 07:55 PM

Your train will also give you pointers to work on at home.

W.Oliver · 07-26-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Samba

Michael Ellis has a DVD that does show the progression pretty well.

Plus one here on M. Ellis and his methods of engagement....you should really check out the videos...he has a school in Fairfield, CA if you're really dedicated to training your dog??

mareg · 07-26-2011, 11:36 PM

You need to understand that the higher points will come from faster and better obedience because the dog focusing on you waiting for his next command....not because of the way it looks.

There is a big difference between a focused dog working with its handler, heeling and waiting for its next command compared to the dog walking along until it gets its next command.

Yeah, it looks good but that is not what it is about.

07-26-2011, 05:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
hunterisgreat Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,566	Reward anytime he is looking at you. Extend how long you require the look slowly. Video didn't work for mr __________________ Hunter, USA basic trial helper Beschützer des Jägers v. Sportwaffen, HOT, BH Katya v. Hügelblick, HOT, IPO1 SG Aska v. Ketscher Wald, 2 x SchH3, Kkl 1

07-26-2011, 06:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Two Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 237	Thanks you two, I will be doing this for sure. Eventually do I get rid of the treats? Because I am pretty sure you can't have treats while doing SchH, at least the Trials? Let me know! Thanks again. __________________ In the process of becoming a GSD owner. Goals: Agility training, possible Schutzhund, great friend / companion! -Jimmy

07-26-2011, 07:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
DanielleOttoMom Elite Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,954	Your train will also give you pointers to work on at home. __________________ Otto Blk GSD 02/23/10 Circe Blk Sable GSD 06/22/08 My fur babies!!

07-26-2011, 07:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,449	Michael Ellis has a DVD that does show the progression pretty well.

07-26-2011, 07:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
mthurston0001 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 255	Just so you are aware, the rules state the dog must be attentive to the handler. They do not say the dog must maintain eye contact. But it sure looks cool if your dog can do it!

07-26-2011, 11:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
mareg Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 56	You need to understand that the higher points will come from faster and better obedience because the dog focusing on you waiting for his next command....not because of the way it looks. There is a big difference between a focused dog working with its handler, heeling and waiting for its next command compared to the dog walking along until it gets its next command. Yeah, it looks good but that is not what it is about.

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