SchH3, what does it take?

Two · 07-22-2011, 02:12 PM

I'm sure this has been answered already, but I cannot find my question!

So for those of you who know me, although I am quite new to the forums, I've been researching GSD's for a little while now and am very interested in getting one in the future.

My question is, what does it take to obtain a SchH3 title... or a even a SchH1 or 2.

I understand to obtain a SchH3 title, you must be patient and spend countless hours training. But how easy / hard is it? I mean, I don't think you can just go to some random Schutzhund trainer and get the title. I'd have to do research to find a good Schutzhund trainer in my area.

From people that own dogs with the title, how long does it normally take? A couple months? A couple years?

Sorry for being a noob, this type of stuff just interests me! I found a couple websites that have abbreviations for the titles I didn't understand:

German Shepherd Titles & Ratings

Dog Titles & Abbreviations

Any and all information is welcome!

Thank you very much,
-Jimmy

gagsd · 07-22-2011, 02:39 PM

If you start from a puppy, or a non-messed up green dog, and IF you have a supportive club, and IF your dog has the temperament, and IF train every week (wih more training at home)..... 1 and 1/2 to 2 years.

suzzyq01 · 07-22-2011, 02:45 PM

It takes a high prey drive, balanced dogs to obtain a ScH3 tittle. A LOT of work on both the owner and dog. This tittle can take years to achieve.

Find a club near by and start going. Watch and talk to the owners/trainers. There is a lot to learn by watching them work. You will need a good club/trainer to assist you.

Good dog + Good Club/Trainer = Schutzhund Tittles (eventually)

Two · 07-22-2011, 03:59 PM

This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you!

Finding a Schutzhund trainer in Nevada is going to be a little difficult, so it might not work out... but I will be doing my research before anything happens.

Thank you!

**Castlemaid** · 07-22-2011, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gagsd

If you start from a puppy, or a non-messed up green dog, and IF you have a supportive club, and IF your dog has the temperament, and IF train every week (wih more training at home)..... 1 and 1/2 to 2 years.

And that is the most likely scenario for an experienced trainer who has titled dogs before.

If you are new to this, more realistically, it can take two years to just get the BH. Dog should be ready for a SchH1 by the time he is 3 years old or so. Most people who train for fun usually space out each level (sch 1, 2, 3,) by a year, but it can be done quickly in progression too, spaced out by the availability of trial in the area.

It is a life-style. We have club training 3 times a week. I work on my own almost everyday on something, do most of the tracking on my own. My dog
may be ready for a Sch1 in the fall, but I'm in no hurry - next year will do just as well too.

szariksdad · 07-22-2011, 04:14 PM

I think you forgot one step in there a BH before a Sch. I and the dog needs to be at least 15monts old prior to first trial. As far as Sch. in your area check out the dvg club in Las Vegas I have heard good thing about the guy running that club. When I first started I was not sure how much time it would take, however I have enjoyed every moment of it since I have got a stronger bond with my dog and he loves the work.

wolfstraum · 07-22-2011, 04:42 PM

Have taken 2 dogs to Schh3, several others titled as well....have Csabre trained to Schh3, but between lack of ....time on tracking, and heat/trying to get an Ufo litter from her, just have not trialed her past Schh1....training her daughter Bengal now as well...

It takes thousands of miles on the truck, hundreds of hours, alot of help from good trainers/decoys/helpers to finish a dog....alot of early mornings, dedication, travel, tears, and sweat to perfect every exercise...alot of $$ on gas if you have to travel (I have worn out one 4x4 PU ~ 250K miles - pretty much all dog related!) and even more money...the cost of the puppy is incidental to the overall end cost...so get the best prospect you can find if you are going to do it!!!

Lee

Packen · 07-22-2011, 04:45 PM

I would say minimum of 3years to get a pup to SchH3 if train HOT and not pay for a title. Disclaimer being if dog and handler have what it takes and support is good with 2-3 days a week club training. If not then maybe 5+ years or never. It is not easy.

W.Oliver · 07-22-2011, 04:50 PM

I approach Schutzhund training as a lifestyle....

Two · 07-22-2011, 07:54 PM

Thanks everyone. I'm guessing BH is the stage before SchH1?

07-22-2011, 02:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Two Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 237	SchH3, what does it take? I'm sure this has been answered already, but I cannot find my question! So for those of you who know me, although I am quite new to the forums, I've been researching GSD's for a little while now and am very interested in getting one in the future. My question is, what does it take to obtain a SchH3 title... or a even a SchH1 or 2. I understand to obtain a SchH3 title, you must be patient and spend countless hours training. But how easy / hard is it? I mean, I don't think you can just go to some random Schutzhund trainer and get the title. I'd have to do research to find a good Schutzhund trainer in my area. From people that own dogs with the title, how long does it normally take? A couple months? A couple years? Sorry for being a noob, this type of stuff just interests me! I found a couple websites that have abbreviations for the titles I didn't understand: German Shepherd Titles & Ratings Dog Titles & Abbreviations Any and all information is welcome! Thank you very much, -Jimmy __________________ In the process of becoming a GSD owner. Goals: Agility training, possible Schutzhund, great friend / companion! -Jimmy

07-22-2011, 02:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
gagsd Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: georgia Posts: 2,972	If you start from a puppy, or a non-messed up green dog, and IF you have a supportive club, and IF your dog has the temperament, and IF train every week (wih more training at home)..... 1 and 1/2 to 2 years. __________________ Animals do not have rights. Owners have responsibilities. www.columbusworkingdogs.com

07-22-2011, 02:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
suzzyq01 Master Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dracut, MA Posts: 634	It takes a high prey drive, balanced dogs to obtain a ScH3 tittle. A LOT of work on both the owner and dog. This tittle can take years to achieve. Find a club near by and start going. Watch and talk to the owners/trainers. There is a lot to learn by watching them work. You will need a good club/trainer to assist you. Good dog + Good Club/Trainer = Schutzhund Tittles (eventually) __________________ Gobles Sonar vom Shipwreck, CGC Dark Sable 100% DDR German Shepherd (4/1/2010) Frosty Onyx Glacier, CGC Grey/White Siberian Husky (8/29/2005)

07-22-2011, 03:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Two Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 237	This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you! Finding a Schutzhund trainer in Nevada is going to be a little difficult, so it might not work out... but I will be doing my research before anything happens. Thank you! __________________ In the process of becoming a GSD owner. Goals: Agility training, possible Schutzhund, great friend / companion! -Jimmy

07-22-2011, 04:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,089	Have taken 2 dogs to Schh3, several others titled as well....have Csabre trained to Schh3, but between lack of ....time on tracking, and heat/trying to get an Ufo litter from her, just have not trialed her past Schh1....training her daughter Bengal now as well... It takes thousands of miles on the truck, hundreds of hours, alot of help from good trainers/decoys/helpers to finish a dog....alot of early mornings, dedication, travel, tears, and sweat to perfect every exercise...alot of $$ on gas if you have to travel (I have worn out one 4x4 PU ~ 250K miles - pretty much all dog related!) and even more money...the cost of the puppy is incidental to the overall end cost...so get the best prospect you can find if you are going to do it!!! Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

07-22-2011, 04:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
szariksdad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Denver,CO Posts: 220	I think you forgot one step in there a BH before a Sch. I and the dog needs to be at least 15monts old prior to first trial. As far as Sch. in your area check out the dvg club in Las Vegas I have heard good thing about the guy running that club. When I first started I was not sure how much time it would take, however I have enjoyed every moment of it since I have got a stronger bond with my dog and he loves the work.

07-22-2011, 04:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Packen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 479	I would say minimum of 3years to get a pup to SchH3 if train HOT and not pay for a title. Disclaimer being if dog and handler have what it takes and support is good with 2-3 days a week club training. If not then maybe 5+ years or never. It is not easy. __________________ Gnash von den Sportwaffen IPO3x2, AD, HOT Brimwylf Creasy

07-22-2011, 04:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
W.Oliver Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Farmington Hills, Michigan Posts: 1,436	I approach Schutzhund training as a lifestyle.... __________________ India vom Wildhaus CGC Dayna von Royale BH FO CGC Therapy Dogs, Inc. Liberty Working Dog Club

07-22-2011, 07:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Two Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 237	Thanks everyone. I'm guessing BH is the stage before SchH1? __________________ In the process of becoming a GSD owner. Goals: Agility training, possible Schutzhund, great friend / companion! -Jimmy

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