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[FORRUGER]

.... Why are we constantly warned when posting a dog on here for rescue to know who/where the dog is going to? And yes, sick people looking for free german shepherds would and do check out german shepherd rescue sites on line for just that, 'free' dogs. In particular free german shepherd dogs if that is their 'victum breed' of choice. Same as they would be checking out Craigslist on line. Sick people looking for bait dogs for dog fighting who ar unaware there is another 'bait' need for dogs for sharks would certainly get a quick education!

This is a "non urgent" rescue thread to post dogs in need of rescue. IF those people who want to continue to talk about the horrors of what becomes 'free' rescue dogs, maybe you would want to move this topic elsewhere. I check and post on this site to save dogs... not to read and see pictures of dogs that have hooks thru their noses,etc. It's a reality,but I don't think "non urgent" rescue is where it belongs. Call me a 'party pooper', but how about moving this thread to another subject area!

[APBTLove]

Selz, it irritates me because 'bait dogs' (I.E, a puppy, a helpless old dog, tied up, restrained dogs, etc) were and are not a part of dog matching.

It is just another thing the general public believe about dog matching, like these:

Flirtpoles are used to increase animal drive.
We use cowhide to give them a want, a taste for animals.
Springpoles are used to strengthen the neck/jaws for better fighting ability.
Thick chains (on chainspots) are to make them stronger for fighting.
We train them to be dog-aggressive.
Make them fight to the death.
Won't let them quit.
Kill the losing dog.
We use bait dogs to train them.

All false. There ARE (as I said) random A-holes who put these poor mutts, not even APBTs, in the pit to fight, who don't even know why or where dog matching started, who are just sick monsters anyway who would do that (throw defenseless animals with an aggressive one to be hurt/maimed/killed) kind of thing even if they didn't have fighting dogs - because they are just sick in the head to do somethign like that to start with.

And yes, I know it is nearly a moot point, because nowadays there are some sickos who fight dogs because they think it's cool, and they simply want to feel big and bad watching their dog win - and then get embarrassed and dispose of their dog if it loses.

But the point remains. If people would stop spreading that ignorance it very well may go away.

Like I said. I don't have to agree with or like something, I am just educated on the topic and whether or not it is a topic I want to discuss, I'd rather try to educate on something that let it go.

And in order to fight something, like dog matching, you need to be well educated on it or else you sound like a fool when trying to make an argument against it. - Not aimed at you Selzer.. people in general..


FORRUGGER actually has a point. While sick jack*sses might not get their shark-bait ideas from this forum.. the media, internet, ignorant people, myths etc. DO indeed cause harm. I'm not sure where to find it now, but recently there were young kids fighting Pit Bull mix dogs, they tortured them and killed them too. When asked why on earth they did these things, why they treated the dogs so - they said they learned how off the internet, an I think they said videos on youtube.

[LaRen616]

There have been people torturing animals way before the TV and the Internet were invented.

Those sickos thought of how to torture animals all by themselves.

I play violent video games, am I violent? No.

I have been listening to Insane Clown Posse since I was in the 4th grade, am I violent? No.

People that are sick and torture animals were most likely born that way unless something traumatic happened to them.

[selzer]

This is about a free dog on craigslist.

Somebody somewhere, may be looking on this non-urgent site who has a dog they need to find a home for.

They may see the horrors that happen to dogs, and the predators that may be searching for any free dogs they can get their hands on.

Maybe that one person is more careful where they place their dog.

Maybe that one dog has a better situation because someone read this thread.

Is it then worth it to have some people really uncomfortable about it?

I did not post the pictures. I posted a link to another site and with a warning. I am sorry you did not heed it.

Some dogs will be acquired by predators who seek out free dogs, far more likely the dog will land in another very sad situation like a hoarder or someone who wants a guard dog to live on a chain in their back yard forever. It is sad that someone would be posting a dog for free on Craigslist because the chances are very good that they are dooming their dog.

[Jax's Mom]

Originally Posted by APBTLove

FORRUGGER actually has a point. While sick jack*sses might not get their shark-bait ideas from this forum.. the media, internet, ignorant people, myths etc. DO indeed cause harm. I'm not sure where to find it now, but recently there were young kids fighting Pit Bull mix dogs, they tortured them and killed them too. When asked why on earth they did these things, why they treated the dogs so - they said they learned how off the internet, an I think they said videos on youtube.

That's almost that same argument that people use when they say violent video games make children violent. Isn't it more accurate to say violent children happen to like violent video games?
As a kid 99% of the toys I had were my big brother's toys in the 70's and 80's, which all happened to be guns, cars and violent video games. I'm not the least bit violent. For some reason 15 years ago I could stomach an entire series of faces of death, but not today. It never occurred to me to see those videos and think "hm, maybe I should be doing that, maybe it will be fun?"
There are a small percentage of people who I think have a screw loose who will use anything as an excuse for the way they are. YouTube, video games, tv, Internet, rap music, whatever.

[APBTLove]

I agree with you Jax's and LaRen. I've listened to ICP for a long time, I grew up playing cops and robbers with fake guns, a favorite pastime was improving my aim out in the backyard with the real guns, and of course the old video games where you rob, carjack, and kill people... I'm not a violent person, quite the opposite - I feel bad for squishing bugs.


And of course, the people who will take things like video games, videos, what they read etc. for real and do it have to have something off with them to start with.


And Selzer is totally right. I do not enjoy seeing animals hurt or suffering, nor reading the horror stories.. But even if it makes someone fell bad or shocks them, if it can help one animal or help educate people - I'll gladly show them. I felt sick for days after watching some slaughterhouse videos, but now I'm aware that it goes on in the US, and I can inform others..

Free animals ARE easy targets, only if their owners will give them to just anyone though... As I said, I rehome my fosters for free. I even give all of their items with them, but I screen the adopters and don't tell them there is no fee until the dog is at their home.. Then I tell them to go buy the new dog something and get them settled in.