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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-20-2017, 08:45 AM Thread Starter
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Am I Choking Him???!!!

Sometimes when Walking Dutch, he gets so crazy biting and twisting my arm behind me that the only way to stop him is to hold him up by his (padded martingale) collar ! I try to make sure the collar is under his chin and not down by his throat but honestly.... he gags and chokes and I wonder if I'm hurting his larynx . Honestly... I almost hang him at some points... front feet off the ground before he stops. I feel so guilty about it and don't want to hurt him... He is 4 1/2 months now and weighs 45lbs.
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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-20-2017, 10:32 AM
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Of course it hurts him and chokes him.Two suggestions for you:#1 more off leash time to go at his own pace as opposed to plodding along at a human pace.
#2 stop him immediately when he begins the unwanted behavior,don't allow it to escalate.A prong collar is actually more humane than a martingale.It tightens evenly around the neck and doesn't choke.

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OP: Yes you are choking him (why is this even a question?!) and it is abusive! Get educated and get a good trainer to help you.
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Why are you using a Martingale? They are designed to prevent a dog from slipping out of the collar. They are not training collars and should not be used to stop a behavior. Work on loose leash walking and paying attention to you to stop the behavior. He needs training.
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A prong collar could make all the difference in this dog, but if it's the same thing and your pup is still pulling this much then there's something more serious going on. Find a reputable trainer.

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My pup was a major puller, still is in a harness. I went to a pinch collar at a young age like your puppy. It helped but that's so young. There are great videos around here that show how to train a puppy to loose leash walk on a flat collar. That's where I'll start next time.
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OP: Yes you are choking him (why is this even a question?!) and it is abusive! Get educated and get a good trainer to help you.
I can tell you, I do not or have ever abused any of my dogs!... I HAVE educated myself and taken every dog I ever had to a trainer. The reason it "is a question" is because MY TRAINER has advised me that when he starts biting and totally loosing it (when we are on a walk) to raise the collar under his chin ( to try to avoid his larynx ) and try to hold him at arms length to keep him from being able to reach me until he calms down (its really over active play he is doing) Soooo, that's what I'm doing but I felt it may hurt him so I thought I would ask for advice here... I appreciate the advice I get from some of the helpful people on this site... to answer others questions, I bought the martingale collar at the advice of others on the site... The one thing I can totally see I need to do is take him where he can have more off leash time... instead of 4 walks a day going to parks where its always on leash ...
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Actually he walks fairly well loose leash... until distracted of course... but hes young and we are working on it. We go to puppy training twice a week and he does great with place, stay its just that I think he gets bored on the walk and then freaks out... biting and trying to grab my clothes and body. I have thought about a prong collar (have used them in the past) but wondered if he was to young.
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Have you tried to engage in play when he acts all bitey and crazy. I would just stop and step on his leash to put him into a down. When he calms down and is still for a second tell him "good boy" and play tug. Eventually he will learn that when he does what you say he will get rewarded with play. sounds like he gets bored and needs to release some energy. Also sounds like he may have a desire to bite. May as well let him bite something appropriate.
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Have you tried to engage in play when he acts all bitey and crazy. I would just stop and step on his leash to put him into a down. When he calms down and is still for a second tell him "good boy" and play tug. Eventually he will learn that when he does what you say he will get rewarded with play. sounds like he gets bored and needs to release some energy. Also sounds like he may have a desire to bite. May as well let him bite something appropriate.
I will definitely try the stepping on the leash.... I had forgotten that, My trainer actually did say that. Thanks so much... I'm just hoping the biting will end when the teething ends... He has gotten better but that wanting to bite and dominate when he's frustrated is something I work on all the time..
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