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Old 03-05-2013, 06:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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what did your Vet do to confirm she's a whiner? i would
get a 2nd opinon.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I dont agre with "it will stop" high drive pups whine. Every morning when I let my 13 week out her cage it looks like one of those soldier returning vids, she whines and cries out of joy. licking/biting my face. Shell do the same out of food drive, when i get her food she sounds the same as when i drove her home from the litter like im hanging her by the tail. but when unsure she barks with a deep tone.

Its not ideal but get used to it, I think an ecollar can be used to correct it if its an issue, get training before using it. Also I noticed you said the 9 week old is a furniture destroyer, definitely start some training classes asap. It sounds like itll be cheaper in the long run.
No, please do NOT even entertain this idea! Some GSDs are just whiners. Some outgrow it when they're more comfortable, some don't. How are you bonding with her if she's in her kennel all day? Sounds like she needs more interaction, more play, more exercise, etc. She needs to become comfortable with you and your family and home. Training classes may be good for her when her vaccines are further along. Grim is very vocal, so I hear whines, groans, grumbles, etc. on top of barks. Have you talked to the breeder about this at all? Does she otherwise appear healthy and energetic?
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:49 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Please don't use an Ecollar on a 9 week old puppy. He's too young, won't understand, and you could cause all sorts of issues.

Six months is the generally accepted minimum age for Ecollar use.
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GSDs are vocal, some more than others. You need to get her out of the cage and spend more time with her. Your stern tone of voice telling her "no whine" or "hush" when she whines, plus a treat when she stops, will *train* her not to whine, or at least to hush on command.

I think she's telling you that she wants to spend more time with you and interact with you. GSD pups are high-maintenance and very people-oriented, not content to sit in a corner and contemplate their navel. You should use this time to bond.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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what did your Vet do to confirm she's a whiner? i would
get a 2nd opinon.
Yeah I got a second opinion, I got her from the shelter since her mom was found as a stray and very pregnant. The shelter vet told me that and when I went to my own vet, he said that she was a whiner as well.
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No, please do NOT even entertain this idea! Some GSDs are just whiners. Some outgrow it when they're more comfortable, some don't. How are you bonding with her if she's in her kennel all day? Sounds like she needs more interaction, more play, more exercise, etc. She needs to become comfortable with you and your family and home. Training classes may be good for her when her vaccines are further along. Grim is very vocal, so I hear whines, groans, grumbles, etc. on top of barks. Have you talked to the breeder about this at all? Does she otherwise appear healthy and energetic?
I did not get her from a breeder, she was a shelter born pup. She is actually very energetic, she plays tag by herself most of the time lol. As far as the shelter vet and my vet has told me, she appears healthy.

I actually think is is bonding with me just fine for the time she is in the kennel. For every hour she is in the crate, she is out for 15-20 minutes playing with me. She sticks to me and my family like glue when she is out of her crate.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:56 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Also, she doesn't seem to be interested in chewing HER toys but anything that is MINE she goes after.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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she probably won't grow out of it, but it will decrease. Some GSD's just whine a lot, it's how they communicate. My other GSD barely vocalized at all, and she had a really calm, even temperament. My new GSD (about 3.5 months old now) whines A LOT, and has kind of a nervy, excitable temperament. She whines about everything, like you said. Whines in her crate, the car, when she's excited, when she's being petted, etc etc etc. She seems to have different whines for different things, i'm starting to learn the difference between her "bathroom" whine, her "i dont like the car" whine, and all that.
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+1 for it probably will get better, but she won't grow out of it. The best you can do is teach her that it will not get her anything (not even attention) and hope she will extinguish this behavior.

You also have to separate dogs that do it because they learned it gets them what they want and dogs that don't even realize they are leaking (vocalizing, shaking, etc).

My dog is 3 years old, and we spend a lot of time training. No matter what - he'll always stay a whiner.

Keep her calm, make sure you don't amp her up pass the point that she can handle. And see if you can interest her in other things if she's whining in the crate and such - dogs can't chew (or lick a kong full of peanut butter) AND whine at the same time (but my dog seems to get close by the way LOL )

And, i think its obvious at this point - NO ECOLLAR FOR A 9 WEEK OLD PUPPY!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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From my experiences lower quality gsds seem to whine all the time. My guess is that is just poorly bred.
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