I would like to hear his opinion as well and be open minded about it... The statement about crying out on continuous and the approach the OP is using is what confuses me.
I am not sure what approach is confusing...?
Again, I put the collar on him, and over several minutes, I slowly raise the stim -- 1 level at a time -- until I got a reaction from him. The reaction was not crying out or yelping, it was simply looking down at the ground as in: "Hey, what was that?"
That is the level I use -- For him it is 55 (out of 127).. The dogtra collar I use has three settings: Vibrate, Nick, and Continuous. Other collars have a "boost" level, but mine doesn't.
A Nick will send a "single rapid pulse of electrical stimulation" that lasts a fraction of a second. I've tried to time it with a stop watch to see exactly how long the pulse is, but my reflexes aren't quick enough. I would guess that it lasts about 1/10th of a second.
The nick is what I use 99.9% of the time.
If he does not respond to the command to "leave it" as the car approaches, and starts after it, I tell him: "No!" and nick him. Even when we first started, that was usually all it took. But some cars -- I don't know why -- really get to him, and he thinks he has to chase them. When I nick him and tell him no, and repeat it, but he is still snarling, pulling on the leash, and trying to go after the car, the I say "No!" and hit continuous. I never held it for more than a second, and I doubt I even did it for a full second.
Yes, that makes him cry out -- but no more than a severe correction with a prong collar would. (Actually, this dog is a little bit drama queen -- he cries out if he walks into a cabinet door he wasn't expecting to find. And he's very chatty -- almost as much as a Siberian Husky...) I have been involved in Schutzhund clubs before. I have watched corrections administered with a prong collar on a dog who was getting out of hand. Believe me, the e-collar is better.
Like I said in an earlier post... I would make a video of it in action, but the reality is that he hardly ever gets nicked any more. He hasn't been constant-stimmed since the first day I took him out. And I am not about to manufacture a scenario to stim the dog just to satisfy some board members whom I don't know, and frankly, I don't care about.