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katygirl 12-14-2012 07:03 AM

Good dog goes bad.
MY GSD male will be 9 mos old in 2 wks. He received his Canine Good Citizen at 5 1/2 months on his first try. I have worked with a trainer since I got him at 10 wks. He is the calmest dog when out of the house vet,doggie daycare once a week, park etc, when he's home with our 3 yr old female (spayed) Jack Russell and my husband,he is non stop jumping playing aggressive just over all bad!I plan to neuter but want to hold off a while but I am second guessing myself and I am under pressure from spouse. Please I need input I want what's best for my dog. He is a big shepherd he is at 81 lbs and very big boned and yes I have had him on large breed puppy and very careful about feeding vet says he is just a BIG shepherd. his pedigree is sire is AKC show and Mom is east european working dog think may be some of the cause of behavior. He is a great dog and I try to work him out and planned to start him in Rally the first of year. Anyone experience this ?

llombardo 12-14-2012 07:11 AM

I don't think he's being bad, he's being a puppy:) Mine is 15 months and she loves to play and all of the time. What you think is aggressive is actually how GSD's play, they play hard. I don't have a yard so they play in the house, some people don't allow play inside, so the dogs go outside to play, but either way they are allowed to play. If you want to take off some of that energy, get involved in an activity...schutzhund, agility, nosework, etc. More walks, hikes, and maybe a flirt pole.

GusGus 12-14-2012 07:15 AM

I could very well be wrong but:
I don't think this is a neutering issue, but just the stages of being a puppy. When my boy was about that age he played very rough with our doberman. Granted, our doberman was more his size rather than a jack Russell. Our dogs would get rough to the point of knocking stuff off of tables or even knocking over tables completely. No matter what we couldn't get them to stop playing. They were best friends and would have been forever. I think its just the bond he feels for your dog (your jack is teaching him things in a dog-dog way) and the play of a puppy who has no idea what size he is.

katygirl 12-14-2012 07:26 AM

He has plenty of activity and 2.5 acres fenced to run and I do play with him everyday. I understand what he is going through I just need to convince the rest of my family that neutering is not the answer at this time. As far as neuter goes his vet at UGA told me he has folds in his eyes and although would not effect his eyesight his pups could be blind. I never heard of this before but that's another subject.

GusGus 12-14-2012 07:32 AM

I don't know anything about the eyes, but he is a puppy and he is going through a child stage. Playing is a very important think for a puppy and at thus stage he has no idea if his size. With patience he will grow out of it mostly. Just try to work with him and remind your family he is only a 'child'

JeanKBBMMMAAN 12-14-2012 08:02 AM

I think working with him every day is important and it sounds like you are doing a lot in that area, but not maybe tiring him out mentally. So lots of things for that:

Clicker class
Trick class
Puppy agility

Along with NILIF.

However, 9-10 months is not a bad age to neuter, and I would be surprised if you didn't see a settling once it was done.

Castlemaid 12-14-2012 09:49 AM

Another thing you can do is to have the trainer come to your house and observe the interactions between your pup and the rest of your family members. Behaviour like this is often unknowingly rewarded. If dog jumps on people and people get upset, pup gets attention which is rewarding, etc. . . People don't realize how dogs are almost always a result of our own actions. There can be a lot of small ways to prevent these behaviours if people have a plan in place on how to handle and manage him to prevent the jumping and misbehaviour, and to give him rewarding alternate scenarios.

But the whole family has to be on board and consistent with all that. Having a neutral outsider come in and observe dynamics and give recommendations, having an understanding on how behaviour is shaped and formed by our own actions (and stuff people aren't even aware they are doing), can go a long way towards making everyone happy.

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