I think you misunderstood my post. I stated that most clubs don't want to see a dog work in defense. They want only prey. I am joining a club, but one that doesn't only work in prey drive. When the dog is mature, they work also in defense and more 'real world' than sport. I'm well aware that as a pup and very young dog, too much pressure will mess up a dog. This happened to my first GSD who ended up having to protect me at too young of an age (not by a trainer, by a home situation) and then was messed up from that. This trainer and club owner is very experienced and very good. It's the exact same type of club and training that Onyx's owner has Karlo in. You have no problem with that, but you're giving me grief, which I don't get. He's not going to take a five month old pup and put pressure on it that the dog can't handle.
I am speaking in the long term, and from what I've been told by other clubs about what they 'prefer'. I also know that he's got to do well in obedience. A dog that does badly in obedience should never be trained in anything put prey. (If that, even) However, he will start training right away. He needs the trial obedience and tracking training also. I'm not taking him to some personal protection hack trainer. I'm looking for IPO titles also. I just want my guy to have more experience than "this is a game to go play" because as he matures, I expect to see some genetic civil aggression out of him. Having an outlet for that and knowing what's appropriate and what's not is important to me.
My pup is also already handler protective. I didn't train that. In fact, it's surprising to me. It's not surprising to his breeder though. I talked to this trainer for over an hour. We talked about how they introduce 'stress' to dogs in training. Nothing that would make a dog fold or harm the dog mentally. This trainer was recommended to me. He said he prefers working with 'real' dogs. I don't see that as a bad thing. I think that dogs with IPO titles that will fold when confronted with a real threat is a bad thing, and the trainer agreed with me. If I wasn't on the same page with this guy, I wouldn't be willing to waste my time and money going there. Whatever your goals are with your dog, you have to find a place that those goals can be met. However, they have to be realistic goals and goals that aren't harmful to your dog. Any trainer that starts training young pups to work in defense is harming them. That's not what I meant at all, though. This is a long term thing for me...so that part will come later. That it's available is what is exciting, as a lot of clubs don't want that type of dog or that type of work.
More than police dogs can do this type of work. Any confident, stable dog can do this work. My guy is from PS lines. He's genetically predisposed to being able to do this type of work. Why not work with the genetics and temperament instead of against it?