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Old 09-22-2014, 03:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Premium Kibble + Raw = Nutritional Imbalance

My vet said that feeding a dog a premium kibble (like Orijen) AND raw leads to a nutritional imbalance that actually ends up hurting the dog.

Anyone have experience on this?
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Old 09-22-2014, 08:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's best not to feed your dog a raw diet and kibble at the same time. The kibble takes a lot longer to digest than the raw, and it confuses the body.

If you're going to feed raw, you need to do the switch cold turkey (No pun intended). Either finish the kibble that you already have, then switch to raw the next day, or donate your leftover kibble to your local animal shelter or rescue group.
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Old 09-22-2014, 08:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, how are you feeding it? Is the raw replacing part of his kibble meal? If so, then the raw has to be balanced properly.

Are you just adding a bit a couple times a week? Then don't worry about it. Are you using the raw as training treats? Then don't worry about it.

If the kibble is balanced, which it is, then you are not going to create a nutritional imbalance. That's like saying ice cream causes nutritional imbalance when you are eating a balanced diet.
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I've heard this before from a vet: kibble is 100% balanced (or so they say), so adding ANYTHING unbalances the nutritional profile.

That is so laughable! Our bodies (like dogs') will use what they need, store or secrete what they don't need.

How do animals in the wild survive without the "help" of commercial 100% balanced pre-made foods? Buy eating what they come across, and their body using what they need, and storing or secreting what they don't need.
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There can be some truth to this.
If you're feeding half kibble and a chicken leg every day, then your dog is only getting half a balanced meal. We always say in the wild, in the wild. But in the wild dogs can choose what they want to eat to balance their own diet out. Our dogs really only have what we give them, so it may not neccesarily be balanced even if it is raw or kibble.

I think the important part is to balance both the raw portion and the kibble portion as if you were feeding them individually, and just halve that.
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Animals "in the wild" survive on what they can find, not what they choose.

In the wild, their lifespans are much shorter than domesticated animals for a variety of reasons.

Comparing our dogs to "in the wild" when discussing balanced diets and health makes no sense at all.
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Animals "in the wild" survive on what they can find, not what they choose.

In the wild, their lifespans are much shorter than domesticated animals for a variety of reasons.

Comparing our dogs to "in the wild" when discussing balanced diets and health makes no sense at all.
This is my point exactly, though I disagree with you slightly on the find part.

We always compare to wild animals, but I don't think there is comparison.
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Yes, if you fed a chicken leg everyday for one of the meals, that is not balanced, but that is not feeding raw. Feeding raw is feeding a variety of different proteins, and a ratio of muscle meats, raw meaty bones, and organ meats, with other things thrown in like raw or cooked eggs, tripe, fish, etc.

Hearing on the board how many people say they feed raw, and then I see that they feed ONLY chicken breasts and ground beef - well, no wonder so many vets are against raw if that is what they see.
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Exactly Lucia. It has to be balanced. If it's not then feed a commercial food!
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I buy 2 whole chickens a week (organs, skin and all) cut it in quarters add yoghurt or sardine or raw egg and feed that as half his meal. The other half is premium kibble.
Premium kibble is way over supplemented. Adding some raw meat will not do any harm. Humans eat different things that digest at different times all the time. I usually feed approx 12 hours apart but I don't think it is necessary.
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