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Germanshepherdlover2507 02-28-2014 02:02 PM

Raw meat blocks
 
So im planning on feeding my puppy a Raw diet. And I know this place that sells these big frozen blocks of raw ground up meat pieces. Its also labled raw dog food. So is this stuff okay for a puppy to have? Also what else should I mix in with the raw meat? And last question, how much kibble would I use with the meat if any? And let's just say I start transferring to raw at about 12 weeks of age or so.

erfunhouse 02-28-2014 02:06 PM

2-3% of expected adult weight. No kibble. Just switch. Why blocks of mix? Why not raw meat?

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Germanshepherdlover2507 02-28-2014 02:15 PM

The blocks are completely raw.
So then I shouldnt give him any kibble with the raw meat? And what kind of veggies do you recommend that I give him with his food?

blackshep 02-28-2014 02:52 PM

You can feed blueberries, kale, apple etc. Basically anything that isn't toxic to dogs.

Is there ground bone in it? You need to make sure there's bone, and you will want to add 5% organ meat, some fish oil and Vit E

SuperG 02-28-2014 03:46 PM

If you feel compelled to give the pup kibble besides the raw...I have heard it is not good to mix the two...separate meals if you must.....

Blacksheps %'s sound good...I might up the organ to 10% but keeping no more than half of it liver....too much liver = runs, I believe....heart does not count as organ meat.... Organ meats such as spleen, brain, kidney, eyeballs, ovaries, testicles, liver (especially liver) or any other secreting organ should also be included.

If there is no bone in the blocks you can either find bones which are suitable for your puppy or just use bonemeal constituting 10% of the overall diet. I do not think it is imperative to ensure that the dog gets theses %s on a daily basis...more an overall blend during a time period.

The meat you described sounds just fine for your pup ask if there is anything else ground up in their product....bone, organ..etc.

Here's an excerpt from Billinghurst's thoughts

Weigh your dog to learn how much raw food to feed each day. The amounts of ingredients in raw food diets are based on weight. Dr. Ian Billinghurst, a veterinarian who advocates raw diets for dogs, suggests feeding amounts that equate to between 2 to 3 percent of a dog's body weight, or about 1/2 lb. of food per 25 lbs. (11.3 kg) of body weight. Puppies should be fed no more than 10 percent of their body weight or 2 to 3 percent of their ideal ADULT body weight. Remember that more active dogs will eat more than a lazy dog. Most raw feeders use this guide:
  • Approx. 80% muscle meat with fat
  • Approx. 10% Organs
  • Approx. 10% Raw meaty bones. (also give raw meaty bones as treats throughout the week).
  • Green tripe can make up 15% to 18% of overall diet.
  • Eggs Once a week, preferably raw, the white and the yolk.
  • Feeding these proportions isn't required everyday, but instead can be balanced out throughout each month. Variety is the key.
Most dogs make an overnight switch: one night its kibble for dinner, the next day they have a Raw breakfast. You can do this too. Others need a fasting period of 1-2 days- never do this longer than one MEAL with puppies. Do not mix kibble and raw, as the time it takes to digest kibble is far longer than it takes to digest raw -sometimes resulting in a stomach upset. Canned organic 100% pumpkin is great to have on hand to regulate any digestive upsets.


Good luck, let us know how it goes !!



SuperG

Germanshepherdlover2507 02-28-2014 03:52 PM

So then absolutely no kibble and raw meat together and just start feeding raw food the next meal?

erfunhouse 02-28-2014 04:18 PM

Yup

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Lauri & The Gang 02-28-2014 04:31 PM

What is in the blocks? If it's a mixture of things, what percentages are they?

SuperG 02-28-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Germanshepherdlover2507 (Post 5111930)
So then absolutely no kibble and raw meat together and just start feeding raw food the next meal?


I'd give that a go.

Oh, pups can certainly manage chicken and turkey necks to help get their requirement of bone as well. I believe you can count chicken necks up to 30% of the overall blend since they are not solid bone. " A chicken neck is the smallest and shortest readily available bone type. This may be an option for any size dog, providing you observe your dog's bone-eating pattern. If your dog tries to gulp down the bone whole, than it is not an option."

SuperG

Germanshepherdlover2507 02-28-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperG (Post 5112394)
I'd give that a go.

Oh, pups can certainly manage chicken and turkey necks to help get their requirement of bone as well. I believe you can count chicken necks up to 30% of the overall blend since they are not solid bone. " A chicken neck is the smallest and shortest readily available bone type. This may be an option for any size dog, providing you observe your dog's bone-eating pattern. If your dog tries to gulp down the bone whole, than it is not an option."

SuperG

What if a small bone gets stuck on the puppy's throat tho?


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