Replacement puppy question

[spiritsmom]

Most likely since she increased her puppy price from what I had paid so she saw a chance to sell 2 females at a higher cost instead of just one and giving me the other.

[wolfstraum]

Did you keep the dog who failed health tests??? Assuming hip/elbow???? Or was his problem so severe you had to euthanize him??? You are not without a dog/companion at this time, assuming the dogs in your sig line are all alive and with you....

Many contracts only give replacements on severe health problems resulting in the necessity of euthanasia, replacements on lesser problems are offered at half the original purchase price credit....ie, if my pups are $1800 and I made someone a special price of $1200, their "replacement" pup is going to be discounted at half their original cost or $600.....are you paying anything towards the replacement puppy????

Raising pups is very expensive, and the breeder may be trying to cover her expenses, even the expenses on the non litter this fall - she may still have had stud fees and progesterone etc without having a live litter (I have done 4 breedings over the years using frozen semen - never any success - you don't even want to THINK about how expensive that has been! just storing semen for close to 10 years has cost me over $1000 - and I still have semen from 2 males and I just cannot bring myself to trash it....).

Perhaps if you talk to the breeder, she will explain her reasoning - maybe she was afraid that after that litter only having 3 pups, she had better keep one for her future plans just in case there were no more litters from the family....

Lee

[vom Eisenherz]

All of those things are possible and feasible. I just think that communication goes a long way. The buyer wouldn't be left to wonder and ask on a forum had the breeder told her what was going on every step of the way. She had to know the OP would check the website, so she should've reassured her that she hadn't forgotten her, wasn't trying to screw her, etc.

Not all breeders have puppies all the time. I don't. If I owe someone money back because I won't have a replacement for a loooong time, then I need to know about it, so on the other side of the coin, I think the OP is partially to blame for being silent (I'm assuming, sorry.....). Maybe the breeder genuinely didn't know your feelings? Ask her. Tell her you were upset about the website postings w/out being notified.

I guess I am in the minority in that I do feel that what someone is owed is more important than what your breeding "plans" are. I put a replacement pup as a higher priority, actually, than a new buyer. After all, they paid a long time ago.

[paulag1955]

Originally Posted by vom Eisenherz

I guess I am in the minority in that I do feel that what someone is owed is more important than what your breeding "plans" are. I put a replacement pup as a higher priority, actually, than a new buyer. After all, they paid a long time ago.

No, I'm with you.

[Freestep]

Originally Posted by spiritsmom

She is the type who lets people pick but you have to pick at age 6 weeks and you have about a day to make your pick so the other people in line behind you can pick theirs. She does keep them till 8 weeks, you just have to pick at 6 weeks.

Hm. Can't say I think very highly of that practice. I hope you get your money back so you can take it to a breeder with better skills.

[spiritsmom]

The dog in question has been spayed as her hips were too bad to breed. My breeding contract stipulated replacement if the dog could not be bred.

My last communication with the breeder ended with her putting on her fall litter list. I just happened to look at her site and saw there would be no fall litter. It takes her awhile to respond to questions so i put it out here while waiting to see what her response is. I've not had to get a replacement pup before so didn't know what kind of position i am in. I guess just to wait on the spring litter.

[Freestep]

Spiritsmom, what is it about this breeder that you liked? The bloodlines she has? Apparently, you are aspiring to be a breeder yourself--why did you choose this breeder to work with? I'm just curious.

[wolfstraum]

not the GSD I take it as her OFAs are OK.....am guessing the Shiloh, as I have heard of many many Shilohs with hip issues....

If that is what your contract states, then you should get a pup from the next litter that you like, I know that there are breeders (GSDs) who have multiple litters, and personally some I would take a pup from, and some I would not...I am assuming here that you liked a particular litter or line this breeder worked with...and want that specifically...

I would contact them and just discuss their plans for upcoming breedings, and at that point specify that you want a pup from X litter, and ask her for a commitment...

Lee

[spiritsmom]

No this is a gsd she's not in my sig since she didn't pass health testing. I only have my possibly breedable girls listed.

I had liked her because she had good dogs for obedience and the breeding had been done twice before so i had progeny to look at all of which i liked.