Breeding a WL to a SL? - Page 3

**bocron** · 06-10-2012, 02:39 PM

So you don't know if the sire of these 2 litters would be considered SL or WL I'm guessing. Post a link to the litter or you can PM and I can try to fill in the blank.

Beau · 06-10-2012, 02:41 PM

Sorry, that wasn't clear was it.

Two different litters, one a SL litter and one a WL litter as represented by the breeders, have the same father.

If the the father is a SL dog, the WL litter is the cross. If the father is a WL dog, then the SL litter is the cross.

Right?

Beau · 06-10-2012, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bocron

So you don't know if the sire of these 2 litters would be considered SL or WL I'm guessing. Post a link to the litter or you can PM and I can try to fill in the blank.

Exactly.

Lakl · 06-10-2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beau

Sorry, that wasn't clear was it.

Two different litters, one a SL litter and one a WL litter as represented by the breeders, have the same father.

If the the father is a SL dog, the WL litter is the cross. If the father is a WL dog, then the SL litter is the cross.

Right?

Do they provide a pedigree to the sire?

Lakl · 06-10-2012, 02:51 PM

They are both showlines. The one you called a WL breeder is doing a litter of SL pups. The sire is showline.

Beau · 06-10-2012, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakl

They are both showlines. The one you called a WL breeder is doing a litter of SL pups. The sire is showline.

Okay, that explains it. Thanks!

**bocron** · 06-10-2012, 03:05 PM

The female that WL kennel used in the breeding to Solo is also a SL dog. They must have gotten the bitch somehow and decided to produce a SL litter.
We had a similar situation a few years back, we had friends who we imported a very nice SL female for. (she was SchH1, KkL1, good hips/elbows and great temperament). They really wanted a litter out of her, but were nervous about the whole thing. They talked us into helping them so I found the sire (one of Yuliya's males, Yash) and I took the female for the breeding. About a week before the pups were due, we moved the dam to our house. She had the litter here and we raised the litter and helped sell the pups. We got a male pup in exchange and my husband got listed as the breeder. So while we aren't "SL" breeders, we did have a SL litter here

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Beau · 06-10-2012, 03:21 PM

Thanks for the help and the clarification!

Sorry to derail the thread......

**lhczth** · 06-10-2012, 04:35 PM

My answer would be indifferent. It is not something that interests me nor something I would do, but to each his own.

LukasGSD · 06-10-2012, 08:29 PM

It may seem like a pretty obvious statement, but I think to get the best results by combining the two is going to take years of breeding, through careful selection, trial and error to actually achieve what one would HOPE for consistantly.

So no, I'm not opposed to it. But I think somebody just needs to consistantly stick with it and not expect immediate results.

06-10-2012, 02:39 PM	#21 (permalink)
bocron Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Milton, Georgia Posts: 1,995	So you don't know if the sire of these 2 litters would be considered SL or WL I'm guessing. Post a link to the litter or you can PM and I can try to fill in the blank. __________________ Annette Holbrook www.coppercreekdvg.com- All Breed Schutzhund Club Home of Umarek von Hugelblick, my good luck charm!

06-10-2012, 03:05 PM	#27 (permalink)
bocron Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Milton, Georgia Posts: 1,995	The female that WL kennel used in the breeding to Solo is also a SL dog. They must have gotten the bitch somehow and decided to produce a SL litter. We had a similar situation a few years back, we had friends who we imported a very nice SL female for. (she was SchH1, KkL1, good hips/elbows and great temperament). They really wanted a litter out of her, but were nervous about the whole thing. They talked us into helping them so I found the sire (one of Yuliya's males, Yash) and I took the female for the breeding. About a week before the pups were due, we moved the dam to our house. She had the litter here and we raised the litter and helped sell the pups. We got a male pup in exchange and my husband got listed as the breeder. So while we aren't "SL" breeders, we did have a SL litter here . __________________ Annette Holbrook www.coppercreekdvg.com- All Breed Schutzhund Club Home of Umarek von Hugelblick, my good luck charm!

06-10-2012, 04:35 PM	#29 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 13,711	My answer would be indifferent. It is not something that interests me nor something I would do, but to each his own. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

06-10-2012, 02:41 PM	#22 (permalink)
Beau Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 385	Sorry, that wasn't clear was it. Two different litters, one a SL litter and one a WL litter as represented by the breeders, have the same father. If the the father is a SL dog, the WL litter is the cross. If the father is a WL dog, then the SL litter is the cross. Right?

06-10-2012, 02:51 PM	#25 (permalink)
Lakl Master Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 906	They are both showlines. The one you called a WL breeder is doing a litter of SL pups. The sire is showline.

06-10-2012, 03:21 PM	#28 (permalink)
Beau Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 385	Thanks for the help and the clarification! Sorry to derail the thread......

06-10-2012, 08:29 PM	#30 (permalink)
LukasGSD Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mansfield, TX. Posts: 328	It may seem like a pretty obvious statement, but I think to get the best results by combining the two is going to take years of breeding, through careful selection, trial and error to actually achieve what one would HOPE for consistantly. So no, I'm not opposed to it. But I think somebody just needs to consistantly stick with it and not expect immediate results.

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