Detection handler requirements - Page 2

**DFrost** · 02-24-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ladylaw203

We use the term civilian to denote non police as well

ha ha, yes ma'am, we do, but I figured; "Unless you are in the military, everyone is a civilian, PO included no matter what they tell you." someones mind is made up and that's the way it is. ha ha. Besides, I just saw a commercial on TV that said if it's on the internet is has to be true.

DFrost

**ladylaw203** · 02-24-2013, 12:50 PM

Well, my opinion is if someone cannot obtain and posess proper training aids, do something else. Psuedo is NOT the real deal. It cannot replicate amounts either which produces a threshold issue. I have run experiments with psuedo for 25 years and have found dogs trained on the real deal walk it which is a clue

cadaver too. Cadaverine and putrecine in an alcohol carrier. Those two odors are produced by animals decomposing as well as humans. Worthless. Again, a threshold issue. The only stuff I have seen worth a hoot is NESTT. I have certified bomb dogs trained on it and they pass. Unless they have come up with something new, narcotic and cadaver pseudo is worthless, overpriced etc. And again. being hard nosed. Training a scent detector dog means one MUST have access to proper training aids in proper amounts. Otherwise the dog is not fully operational

**ladylaw203** · 02-24-2013, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFrost

ha ha, yes ma'am, we do, but I figured; "Unless you are in the military, everyone is a civilian, PO included no matter what they tell you." someones mind is made up and that's the way it is. ha ha. Besides, I just saw a commercial on TV that said if it's on the internet is has to be true.

DFrost

I love that commercial.

mjstk · 02-24-2013, 08:19 PM

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02-24-2013, 12:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
ladylaw203 Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Beaumont,Texas Posts: 4,934	Well, my opinion is if someone cannot obtain and posess proper training aids, do something else. Psuedo is NOT the real deal. It cannot replicate amounts either which produces a threshold issue. I have run experiments with psuedo for 25 years and have found dogs trained on the real deal walk it which is a clue cadaver too. Cadaverine and putrecine in an alcohol carrier. Those two odors are produced by animals decomposing as well as humans. Worthless. Again, a threshold issue. The only stuff I have seen worth a hoot is NESTT. I have certified bomb dogs trained on it and they pass. Unless they have come up with something new, narcotic and cadaver pseudo is worthless, overpriced etc. And again. being hard nosed. Training a scent detector dog means one MUST have access to proper training aids in proper amounts. Otherwise the dog is not fully operational __________________ Renee Utley Port Authority Police KaroSkocickaSamotaZM,ZOP,ZPU,FPR,FPR,ZVV1,ZZZ,ZZP, RHE,ZM TART, IRO titled SAR dog ZVV1 Gabbi Mariko Bohemia ZVV1 Jessy Vikar www.nndda.org, Certifying official

02-24-2013, 08:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
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