Police Dog Tracking/Trailing - German Shepherd Dog Forums

Increase font size: 0, 10, 25, 50%

GermanShepherds.com is the premier German Shepherd Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-30-2013, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Tim Connell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 302
Default Police Dog Tracking/Trailing

OK: Another conversation starter...

How do you start your police dogs on their tracking/trailing?


There seems to be a wide variation in how people start their dogs, from an IPO style track, that they then expand to hard surfaces, to "scent in a bottle", to HITT, to laying tracks barefoot, to various combinations thereof.

Some don't like the hydration, but I have my own opinions on it...

How we do it:
We use a modified version of the HITT method, for police dog type tracks/trails.

We start them on a scent pad with heavy bait, to reinforce good nose down behavior, and as soon as that is solid, we transition right to a hard surface track.

Pavement, concrete, hard pack, dirt, grass, then woods. (leaves, pine needles, forest floor material in our region) The theory is train them on "most difficult to least difficult", so the dog starts tracking on the most difficult surface it will ever encounter.

We also track in snow of course, if in season.

We start the dogs on hard surface as soon as they exhibit good nose down behavior, and concentration for the task. Very dependent on the individual dog, but they usually progress quickly.


What are you using?
Opinions?
__________________
Interests:
Police K9/Explosive Detection/IPO/Ring
Working GSD/Malinois
www.vandesterke.com
Tim Connell is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-30-2013, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
cliffson1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,286
Default

I think a lot is based on what age are you going to start, what are the drive levels if its a older green dog, and the commitment of the handler. I like to start puppies on food and grass surfaces, once the dog is firmly threaded in to understanding the command you use and has built up distance endurance enter many of the things you mention Tim. Now a green dog of 18 months or older, it is much easier to start earlier with the multi-faceted approach especially if the dog has great natural hunt drive. All dogs will track/trail as you know because of the superior olfactory tools, but the more varied and difficult the tasks the better the foundation and natural drives need to be in sync. Lastly, of supreme importance is the commitment of the handler in working the dog. Police officers are like anybody else in that many don't make a continuous and thorough commitment to tracking/trailing....there are a lot of hiccups as you vary terrain, difficulty, and objects to be foundor tracked...but the officers that make the commitment or are obsessive about tracking usually get there with their dogs regardless of the approach....just some thoughts.
cliffson1 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-30-2013, 08:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Tim Connell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 302
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cliffson1 View Post
I think a lot is based on what age are you going to start, what are the drive levels if its a older green dog, and the commitment of the handler. I like to start puppies on food and grass surfaces, once the dog is firmly threaded in to understanding the command you use and has built up distance endurance enter many of the things you mention Tim. Now a green dog of 18 months or older, it is much easier to start earlier with the multi-faceted approach especially if the dog has great natural hunt drive. All dogs will track/trail as you know because of the superior olfactory tools, but the more varied and difficult the tasks the better the foundation and natural drives need to be in sync. Lastly, of supreme importance is the commitment of the handler in working the dog. Police officers are like anybody else in that many don't make a continuous and thorough commitment to tracking/trailing....there are a lot of hiccups as you vary terrain, difficulty, and objects to be foundor tracked...but the officers that make the commitment or are obsessive about tracking usually get there with their dogs regardless of the approach....just some thoughts.

It does seem that people either love scentwork, or hate it. The two extremes, it seems.

Agreed, a lot depends on the individual dog, and it's drives.
__________________
Interests:
Police K9/Explosive Detection/IPO/Ring
Working GSD/Malinois
www.vandesterke.com
Tim Connell is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-01-2013, 08:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tn
Posts: 880
Default

I start tracking using footstep like they would in Schutzhund. While it's as boring as watching paint dry, it does give the dog a good foundation.

DFrost
__________________
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.

DFrost
DFrost is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:10 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com