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Old 11-16-2012, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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these vids show some barrier frustration the first exposure to the dog with this type of work - the decoy is not a dog guy btw. the dog's age is actually a bit younger once i checked his actual date so more like 13mo.

i think i held the leash too tight and didn't allow him enough freedom but the decoy is inexperienced so safety first.

sometimes the dog look serious to me other times he looks like he is playing, i don't see fear?

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Old 11-16-2012, 09:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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why on earth would u be working with someone who isnt a dog guy? ur dog sounds and looks good tho for a young dog. IMHO But you are pulling it back it looks like. I don't know just seems like you should be working with a real trainer. But real trainers are hard to find so i sompathize with you because most real trainers are crooks. But you should be moving forward with your dog and not pulling it back. Dog seems good tho and seems like he is or will be a serious dog. JMHO someone with much more experience will see tho.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ya, i am pulling him back, basically pulling him off his feet trying to put in a huge safety margin but it is compromising the training exercises.

i have no choice on decoys, i am raising this decoy myself. he is not a "moving shaking" kind of guy lol but a good guy. he is prolly more like a real adversary than some whip-cracking, disco shuffle, decoy dude or a princess schutshund forearm decoy.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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what is ur dog like around strangers? will he let them pet him?
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kind of a big stupid pup around friendlies that are introduced and seems happy to meet them and gets very excited and will knock them over trying to play.

at night he senses get a bit heightened and is quick to go off the deep end. he is also very quick to trigger on either a stalker (in training) or any kind of threat/challenge.

i think he is a low threshold dog, very low. also quick to switch from prey and defence, a real helper worked him and said he can switch the dog from prey to defence with subtlest of movements.

my interpretation is he is a late maturer as he only started lifting his leg at 12mo and he will grow into himself from about 2yo.
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does he have a lot of prey drive also? he seems like he would be a good dog then also for protection training.


The switching in and out quick is nice my bitch does that a lot in training. I think its good it keeps them from being stresssed and she loves training then. She never wants to leave and always wags her tail gets nutty when goes to protection.


She went for the decoys fingers/hands last time tho in training lol He went into a panic mode there because it became a real life situation.

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does he have a lot of prey drive also? he seems like he would be a good dog then also for protection training.


The switching in and out quick is nice my bitch does that a lot in training. I think its good it keeps them from being stresssed and she loves training then. She never wants to leave and always wags her tail gets nutty when goes to protection.


She went for the decoys fingers/hands last time tho in training lol He went into a panic mode there because it became a real life situation.
yes hi in prey but not super quick like a small frame mal, he is as fast as any gsd for the prey item, he is about 43kg at the moment around 18mo with very low fat %

he is bred as a sharp street dog, will video some prey stuff and put up.
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hes czech? he will mature really late mine is going to be 3 in january i am starting see a mature dog now but i still think she will mature more


my dog close to 3 i dont consider her a real mature dog
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half czech as far as i can gather thru sire, but the actual dogs all seem to be italian working dogs on the grandsires line??? so not sure why the breeder of the grandsire says czech??

the dam side is kind of ddr and wg i think so a bit scatterbred. just a matter of guys in working roles saying that dog is good, this female is good lets put them together - don't think they are big ped nerds, just what works to what works.
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You need to stop messing around with protection work as a newbie and with a helper that doesn't know anything. Find a good club otherwise don't do it.
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