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Old 11-20-2012, 07:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hey now, I ONLY do "thriller" when I'm working dogs. Too young for disco

tehe, gangnam style, interpretive dance....?
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i need to shut more up is what i need to do
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:45 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I don't think it's the end of the world to work with an inexperience helper as long as *someone* is calling the shots. One thing I noticed was that his presentation of the sleeve was really awkward, both for himself and the dog. Didn't really matter in that vid but if your dog was running and launching at him, not held back on a leash, then someone could really get hurt. Maybe just have him to the agitation work and not the bites. I'm kind of a newb myself but if someone was "catching" my dog like that I'd end it right there, no more actual bites on a sleeve until the helper can safely present it. Safety is more important to me than "is my dog a bad@$$ that will bite?"
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:32 PM   #25 (permalink)
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yeah someone correct me if im wrong but this dog seems to be the type that will nail someone at this young age and hes doesnt really seem to scared either in his videos lol I would be really careful someone doesnt get hurt or "caught"
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what do you mean by "caught"??
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:47 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I don't think it's the end of the world to work with an inexperience helper as long as *someone* is calling the shots. One thing I noticed was that his presentation of the sleeve was really awkward, both for himself and the dog. Didn't really matter in that vid but if your dog was running and launching at him, not held back on a leash, then someone could really get hurt. Maybe just have him to the agitation work and not the bites. I'm kind of a newb myself but if someone was "catching" my dog like that I'd end it right there, no more actual bites on a sleeve until the helper can safely present it. Safety is more important to me than "is my dog a bad@$$ that will bite?"

agreed, my dog will never do the flashy long bite stuff as i don't have the experience or the resources.

not a prob tho as the dog will always be leashed during bite-work, unless its a training scenario.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:24 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Two things from a newbie. Based strictly off of the video....
when the helper gives the bite have him angle the sleeve a bit down toward the dog.

Also, when the dog bites, in the video it appears that the helper just kept staring at the dog, and stared at him all of the way out of the gate. The most simple, but maybe important??, concept I have learned is how important it is for the helper to act as if the dog affected him. Act scared, turn away, glance down, grunt.... whatever.
But do not continually be challenging the dog after the dog has shown power through the bark or the bite.
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thats what i'm talking about, some solid, simple practical advice that can make a difference. thank you Sir/Mam?? i appreciatte it.
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thats what i'm talking about, some solid, simple practical advice that can make a difference. thank you Sir/Mam?? i appreciatte it.
Just passing along things I have learned from those far wiser and more knowledgeable than myself.
Have you and your helper read Der Schutzhund? I found that it is the best place to start understanding protection work.
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