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Old 11-18-2012, 12:52 AM   #11 (permalink)
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thanks for the advice, i choose to ignore it tho.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If you will post the pedigree I can tell you how he is bred. I can tell you Czech dogs are slow to mature. Also what are your plans for him ultimately? The decoy is an important component in training and i would not go this route:-)
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i did not purchase the dog with papers, i am not sure the mother has papers. sounds bad to most here i know but i based my purchase on what i saw the parents do while working, i worked all the breeders dogs myself and other progeny that were old enough.

the grandsire is nukey which many here will prolly know as a great sport dog. a nukey son is the sire but not sure what nukey was bred with - whatever it was the breeders of nukeys son are top and well respected breeders.

my dog was the first outcross with the nukey son - is nukey czech, i don't know, which makes me don't know if his son is czech etc. he looks it?

the grandsire on the dam side is a well known street dog, well known by private industry at least.

which makes my dog a bit mean junk-yard dog outcrossed with elite international level sport dog.

i would not go this training route either if i had a choice. dogs are adaptable and i am not stupid or cruel. if the dog is going to work the training will neither prevent him from or cause him to work, what a dog is is what a dog is.

he will do street work, i won't start him untill he is 2yo and then he will only get easy gigs out of harms way untill he shows he has the capacity. if he fails he will be my pet, albeit an active pet. personally i have no doubts he will do the work, a prediction yes but sheesh not many people would even go anywhere near him now.

sorry about vagueness of ped but i never went to buy a piece of paper i wanted a dog and the best way i know how to do that is see the parents and progeny work and know the breeder his plan experience past products of breeding and his ethics.
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I have two nu key sons. Yes he is Czech. When you say street work what do you mean? Are you a cop? And poor training can ruin a nice dog. I have been certifying dogs for many years and have seen some nice young dogs totally screwed up because the foundation is everything
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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dog first time presented with someone at front door;


different day different decoy same door - yes he lost focus for a bit;


with a real decoy at night - poor vid quality;


dog is confident and sharp as ****!

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I have two nu key sons. Yes he is Czech. When you say street work what do you mean? Are you a cop? And poor training can ruin a nice dog. I have been certifying dogs for many years and have seen some nice young dogs totally screwed up because the foundation is everything

wow you have nukey sons, that makes us in-laws, hi ya, gonna bookmark you mam how do you friend people on this forum.

not a cop, a rent-a-cop, not my full income stream tho, need more dogs lol.
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he looks like he will already bite someone for real
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please don't assume as some have that this dog has been pushed into defence by some harsh agitation methods - so not true, his stimulation is exactly what you have seen, in fact i have taped every session and put them on this board. he has not had many sessions at all in his life and all the stimulation is what you see.

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ya, i am pulling him back, basically pulling him off his feet trying to put in a huge safety margin but it is compromising the training exercises.

i have no choice on decoys, i am raising this decoy myself. he is not a "moving shaking" kind of guy lol but a good guy. he is prolly more like a real adversary than some whip-cracking, disco shuffle, decoy dude or a princess schutshund forearm decoy.
Hey now, I ONLY do "thriller" when I'm working dogs. Too young for disco
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What is a "princess Schutshund forearm decoy"?
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