Going back to basics - the work of 'schutzhund' was meant to showcase the stability of the dog and the ability to discern between a real threat and a person in a neutral position....in sport today, dogs are taught to work a sleeve - ie, the "jute junkie" as per an earlier post....but to be fair, that extreme prey drive is a goal in so many breedings!!!!
There are still dogs with the ability and the inclination to engage a threat...who will not focus on a sleeve on the ground while a decoy tries to engage their attention....I think the popularity of the Czech/DDR lines is because of this perception of the buying public...that these dogs will be more protective - ie -will be civil and engage a threat....BUT dogs who engage for real without discernment of a true threat vs a playmate are no more desirable than a prey monster....neither is a balanced temperament
I have had one line now which has produced truly civil dogs - Xito Maineiche to Kyra Frolich Haus (2-5,5 on Lord G. - no Mink or Fero)...Cito (ATB) and Csabre are both very very very 'civil' dogs. Csabre will work hard to engage children to pet her in public....loves them, and yet will work a suit or hidden arm...as a young dog when starting training (~1.5 years old), she would spit the sleeve and go over it to a decoy - to his dismay! When worked by a few very very experienced helpers, these dogs are very real, and Csabre in particular is always praised as a "strong" and "real" female..these dogs are said to "bring the fight to the helper" - Xito was like this too...Cairo from this litter is obedient and adores his handlers young daughter, but is a border (Vermont/Canada) Patrol dog with many drug busts and SAR finds to his credit as well.
My Tom L x Ufo dogs, although very high in prey, have also shown the tendency when called for to show 'civil' temperament -but, like Mrs. K. says, they are generally worked in prey for sport/titles....the Csabre x Ufo pups have shown very good prey, but the civil side is very evident as well. Several of my Ufo grandkids are LE dogs in Europe/
Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, SG Bengal, Lynx, Komet, Kira HGH & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Ziberia IPO1 ~ ATB Basha, Kougar & Kyra, Fenja, Sch3s, Cito, Sch2, Danger RH & Alice Sch1s ~Kelsey
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