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Old 03-20-2012, 09:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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But is she a perfect jumper? <very big evil grin>

Quote from my Russian friend: "Being perfect jumpers, the EE Shepherd dogs are fond of barriers and obstacles."


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Wow, she is a perfect jumper and a ninja too!
See I told ya, she must be part Russian!
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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EES are wonderful dogs but, just to clarify, the soviet military and the police used regular German shepherds for patrol work. Guard dogs, sniff dogs and watch dogs could be mixed with the local shepherd breeds.

The tsar police kennels were almost destroyed after the October revolution. It took a while to re-create the breeding program, everything had to be started basically from scratch. The new government spent a lot of money on getting breeding stock from Germany in 1920s. I would really like to do some research one day and find out what lines were imported.

I saved somewhere a link to the pictures of Soviet working border patrol dogs, I need to look it up.
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interesting. Everything i've read states EES is a hardier version of the GSD. They were said to have bred the GSDs with local dogs who could withstand the colder temperatures better while patrolling or sleeping in kennels. I would certainly be curious to know which lines they imported in the 1920's as well.
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Here you can find a good artcle re the history of the EES breed, including the originating lines. It looks like it was based on GSDs without mixing in of any local shepherd breeds. Just very selective breeding. Мурманский клуб собаководов ** The article is in Russian, originally published in the 1970 - 80s.

Here are the pics of different types of GSDs from this article, for comparison:

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Some more info with pictures at the bottom, with the names, titles, descriptions and scores Когда деревья (и собаки) были большие ...
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Old 03-21-2012, 02:47 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.... This is the first time I hear about EE shepherd.
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I have a cousin with GSD that will climb up a tree when chasing a squirrel. Seen it with my own eyes. Will try to video it next time!
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That would be awesome if i could read russian... Have to find a translator program. lol. I would be VERY interested to understand all that. Like i said, all i've been able to find was in english or from my history teacher.
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Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.... This is the first time I hear about EE shepherd.

I was looking up the EES when i was looking for a breed that wasnt on the resticted lists for apartments but could easily be similar to the GSD. FYI East European Shepherd and Shiloh Shepherd lol. Good looking dogs to say the least...
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My Russian friend translated this information from the web site Из истории породы

Eastern European (German) Shepherd Dog was first brought to Russia in 1904. Dogs of this breed was used as a care of dogs in the Russian army during the Russian-Japanese war. In 1907 they were used for the search service. In the hands of amateur breeders sheep numbered ones are bred in small numbers by police kennels. Organised breeding began in 1924, during the departmental organization in the country schools and nurseries of service dogs and the creation of public service dog organizations, uniting in its ranks thousands of hobbyists and breeders of this breed. Planning and purposefully bred for more than five decades, in fact, which showed his worth in all sectors of economic work on border security, investigative services, and in the Great Patriotic War, the German Shepherd, so mutated as applied to our conditions and requirements that are currently Alsatian dogs is very different from the German Shepherd, which are bred in West Germany, and now in Russia.
In Moscow in 1924 was created by an army kennel "Red Star", which received the name of the "470 th methodical and Dog Training Center service dog." He was engaged in purposeful breeding of German (Eastern) Shepherd. Due to the impossibility of purchasing dogs abroad for hard currency, the next significant influx of foreign blood has occurred 'in 1945 captured by the military and police dog kennels in Germany. But due to the weather and, above all, focused selection and recruitment in our country has been received the type of East-European Shepherd. Immediately after World War II, in which the sheep have shown themselves as patriots working to save the wounded on the battlefield, undermining the Nazi tanks and dying themselves, Gen. GP Medvedev, who headed the Council of canine, sheepdog named VEO "patriotic" dog and offered to clubs Moscow, Leningrad. Sverdlovsk. Yaroslavl and other cities to legalize the name "East European Shepherd"
In 1964, the type of VEO was approved by the Presidium of the Federation of Service Dogs, and in 1976 legitimized as a breed - the standard, as the German (Eastern European) Shepherd. This standard we follow today. history of the breed so, from 1945 to 1990 he was working to improve the breed. Known around the world cynologists Mazover AP. Rodionova, SV, Gurevich A., Ball passed the baton Popova LK, Trofimova SN and other breeders, thanks to their work and in Leningrad was removed a lot of Eastern European Shepherd breed. Lane continued the line, Corsair, the Rhine, Cascade, and others. In 1971 - 1975's an opportunity to break the population into seven related groups. First - Leningrad chuzhekrovnaya main livestock. Breeding in this group was based only on chuzhekrovnyh combinations. second - team champion Dingo K-313 (the owner Embert, Riga). It was created as a result of a very successful combination of progeny from Riga manufacturers. Work in this group was based on identifying and fixing the type characteristic of the breeding dogs of Riga. Third - Corsair Group Champion K-93 - the most numerous. This group was divided into two subgroups: pure Leningrad dogs and dog origin, derived from a combination of Leningrad producers with Moscow. The purpose of this group - to identify manufacturers who later would become the founders of their own kin groups. fourth - a group of champions Murata K-421 (the owner Ershov) - producer, chuzhekrovnogo for Leningrad and the stock at that time gave a very interesting breed. Fifth - a group of champion and winner of the Inguri K-405 (the owner Emelyanov), the manufacturer of the city of Kharkiv, imported in Leningrad during the period of deficit producers, which became the most-convenient and widely used for unloading pedigrees. The purpose of this group - to isolate offspring Inguri, not giving him shelter widely distributed in the population of Leningrad. Sixth - a group of descendants of the winner to Tanzania-402 (the owner Rybin), Moscow dog breeding, which is used only in the Leningrad-producing origin. Seven - a group of old dogs Leningrad blood (no blood descendants Lane Le Corsaire, as well as the descendants of Anychara). Since the beginning of a new period in our history, when it became possible to import dogs from abroad in large numbers, many dog breeders have selected as the main directions of work with the original, West German Shepherd type (GSD). Many years passed before it became apparent not only foreign but also domestic experts, what property was in our hands and we could not protect him and almost lost. But the East-European Shepherd remained loyal fans - the true breeders who continued selection VEO clean! They appreciated not only by its beauty. but most important - the difference in the behavioral responses of Eastern European and German Shepherds.now in the breeding objective is to create a genealogical database that would allow to work with the rock along the lines of, regardless of the delivery of producers from other cities and abroad. You must create a kindred group of dogs, while maintaining the grain of a foreign stock, to get to St. Petersburg the blood of non-resident producers. first exhibition in Leningrad, the German Shepherd was held on 25-26 May 1991 Examination conducted by Erich f. Shler (Germany), which negatively reacted to the type of East-European Shepherd representatives of this type of arrangement in its closed the rings. Connoisseurs of the East European Shepherd could not agree with this attitude to the national breed type, you are in our country for many years, and began to organize clubs of East-European Shepherd. In our opinion, this event marked the emergence of a new domestic breed. In St. Petersburg, the first club to breed Alsatian as a separate breed club was the "Fauna", headed by LK Popova. In Moscow, one of the first clubs were diluted VEO were: Moscow City Club of Working Dogs. "Service dog. VEO club." The Moscow City Dogs Lovers Society, a club VEO "Argo" in 1993 in Moscow, was founded VEO Lovers Union (VEO SD), which consisted of many canine organizations engaged in breeding of East-European Shepherd. Today, the Alliance coordinates the work with the breed in the Russia and is seeking formal recognition of the breed in the international arena under the auspices of RMS VEO are specialized exhibitions Alsatian in different geographical regions of Russia. / in St. Petersburg is currently the largest club engaged in breeding of Alsatian, a St. Petersburg Center for European Shepherd and other breeds . Pedigree Club "Mirant". included in its composition, has over 500 members. Club is an official member of the VEO SD. We have been breeding purebred, conduct strict selection of producers on the exterior, working and breeding quality puppies carry branding, assist in the production and training and registration of dogs veterinary members of our club. Since 1995 SPbTsVEO conducts twice a year, special exhibitions VEO ("Spring" and "Golden Autumn"), which examined by leading experts on the breed VEO in Russia. In our breed club has a descendants of the most exciting producers in Russia, whose ancestors are the best representatives of the breed Alsatian dogs: the Rhine. Corsair, Zager. Toger. Empire. Inguri. fascinate you. Kredos. Crassus. Cascade, Yakar. Murat, Brig, Janko. We look forward to swift international recognition of East-European Shepherd and make every effort to make our work even more successful! Breed Alsatian dogs above average growth, strong dry-built, elongated, with smooth and free movement. dog has a keen sense of and hearing, a strong balanced mobile type of higher nervous activity, alive and defiant character, hardy and brave. Having a well-defined defense reaction in the active form and the ability to relatively rapid acclimatization allow these dogs to work in different climates and on all types of services, both in Armed Forces and the national economy. ability not to lose the orienting reaction in the very difficult situation and assess the possibilities of the person next to her - the special value of the East-European Shepherd. It is very beautiful, perfectly composed, remarkably dynamic and flexible, proud and majestic, very counterbalanced by their psychological type universal, versatile dog used. It requires no special preparation for exhibitions (trimming, cutting, etc.) - and in the ring and in everyday life, this dog looks equally well-groomed, elegant. natural stamina and ability to adapt to any conditions make it suitable for maintenance and in an apartment and country house, and in the kennel - dogs are undemanding in its content. In these dogs a great character, dedicated and loving heart. They are smart, disciplined, easily and with great pleasure to learn and love to work with. It's safe to say they "do not like to sit around." Therefore, education and training and can handle a novice breeder, and an elderly man and a teenager. "Easterners" perfectly captures the mood of the owner - he may be pleased to accompany him on walks, to be a tireless partner in the games, and a reliable partner in the work. At the same time can be very quiet and unobtrusive, if the owner does not currently disposed to communicate. Terrible for the stranger, for their kind and obedient to it, gets on well with children and takes them under his wing. It is easy to perceive needs and habits of his master, and when he looks into his eyes, it seems like he is trying to look straight into the soul. Finally, the striking intelligence of these dogs. If the training platform "Easterners" sometimes not averse to "sachkanut." is in real life he will assess the situation and would not wait for the host team to stand in his defense near the Alsatian dogs a person can feel completely relaxed. These dogs natural protective reflex and fine intuition. They good feel their territory, its boundaries, able to think and make decisions. best evidence around what has been said to be that. as these dogs are widely used in the service of man they are successful in the border troops, police, customs, escorted loads on the railways, working as mine detection in "hot spots", and how to guide the blind And Emergency Rescue Service - "Easterners" without thinking are the most dangerous areas, where people need their help. What other breed can boast such a wide range of applications? A dedication These dogs are legendary. probably why so popular and loved movies, the heroes who have these wonderful dogs ("Give me a paw. Friend," "To me, Mukhtar," "The Edge dog Scarlet," "Faithful Ruslan", etc.)

Training Dogs quite easy to train. Of course, we should not let the education of their course. As with other working breeds, Easterners require an authoritarian upbringing, otherwise it may come a time when your dog decides to argue with you for the supremacy of the house. Training is best done under the guidance of an experienced instructor at the training site. Prompt you to work out how to correct this or that skill to find a dog with a "common language" to class enjoyable for you and your pupil. All the information you can get in the club, where I got a puppy. hair care hair care is not complicated. Suffice 1-2 times a week to comb the hair metal comb. During molting, it should be done every day and comb out the undercoat, "Slicker." Conclusion Alsatian - a wonderful breed that has a great future and great potential, but its further development depends on which direction and how professionally it will work with breeders . Chairman of the St. Petersburg Center "East European Shepherd and other breeds," Mamedov TS





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Quoted from the article: 'A dedication These dogs are legendary. probably why so popular and loved movies, the heroes who have these wonderful dogs ("Give me a paw. Friend," "To me, Mukhtar," "The Edge dog Scarlet," "Faithful Ruslan", etc.)'

This is fascinating to me. Wouldn't you like to see these movies mentioned in the article?

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