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Obviously weed is easier to obtain , but what about Herion or other class A's? Other than using Psudo's for the heroin or cocaine, it is difficult for someone with a DEA license to come up with any substanial ammt.
The reason I ask is that training on small ammts , the K9 can have "scent overload" when encountering large finds; but then again , when you walk into a house that has bales of weed , you don't need your K9 partner ![]() What is the largest siezure your K9 has made? Charlie |
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I don't use pseudo of any type. To me, it's like using blanks at the firing range - - it just isn't real. We do have the ability to make multikilo hides during training. Largest I've been involved in is 202 kilos of cocaine and 3,600 pounds of weed.
Dogs can have "scent overload" we call it point of saturation, if they have never encountered large loads before. You can make simulate having more substance just by spreading the targets you have out over more surface. It does help. It's purely a training problem. DFrost
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Psuedo will not cut it. The Scent overload is a threshold issue which is a problem in HRD and explosive detection as well. Training on small amounts keeps the dog's threshold too low and when presented with a large amount of the odor most dogs will exhibit final trained response in the "fringe". In other words the dog will alert in the amount of odor that the dog has been trained to find.
Highway drug interdiction units down here get hundreds of pounds rather frequently as well as cash in hidden compartments. I 10 runs through here right from El Paso. 20 lbs of cocaine two days ago and that is very common here Are you a police officer or private security? The problem now is that DEA will issue no new licenses to private civilian trainers. If one already has a license,they will renew but will issue no new ones
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I try not to be TOO buzzed when training
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http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1326736052
. 136 lbs of weed, gun and cocaine seized here recently. pretty common
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i just want to ask a quick question to those of you responsible for these drug seizures. after you apprehend them, what do you do with them or how do you dispose of them? i've always wondered.
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I am going to assume you mean disposing of the dope and not the crook.......
![]() The dope/contraband must be maintained as evidence until the case is disposed of and it is released for destruction. A destruction order is obtained and bye bye to the incinerator by police
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lol, yes you are correct, i meant the drugs, not the person. perhaps i used the term apprehend too loosely. i'm going to assume that term is used for people, not drugs. thanks for answering
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Chobahn 3/26/10 ![]() "If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience." -Woodrow Wilson |
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hahahaha
hey I needed a chuckle today.
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