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Old 08-28-2013, 07:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So, currently I am deployed to Afghanistan. Upon my return to El Paso I will be purchasing a German Shepherd puppy to raise for home protection.

I have done some research for a reputable breeder and the pickings are slim in my area, nonetheless.

I am thinking of home training my puppy, I have been looking at a few options as far as DVD's go.
The DVD's I'm looking at, in no particular order are:

1. Various Leerburg
2. Schutzhund Protection Series by Canine Training Systems
3. Schutzhund with Gottfried Dildei- Protection

My end goal is to have our newest family member; social, defensive, alert, bite on command. I have no need for an attack dog per se, just something to buy me time until I arm myself.

Your comments or experiences would be appreciated.
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Research first so you can select a good pup. Go for a working line or a malinois. I'd go for a balanced temperament. A calm intelligent dog is what you want.

Pretty much any dog will bark to alert you though.

I'm sure you can get in contact with experienced members here who can help you more
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I would invest a great deal of time researching both training and dogs...I would propose a GSD (this isn't a Mal forum). Check out USCA, PSA, SDA, and other options...discover what is in your area.

Regardless the venue, it takes three hearts to train a protection dog...you, your dog, and a decoy/helper. You can be an inexperienced handler and learn to train a dog, however, I would suggest you want an experienced helper....not sure you can get that at home?
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You need to find a Breeder that can produce pups of the quality seen in my videos,
Schutzhund is sport work, not Personal Protection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNOxux5q57A

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Old 08-30-2013, 07:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Have a look at these videos, then decide if this is what you are looking for in a Personal Protection dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDLrLZdqP0Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVkR2er0a74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDV30QHDyVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utr6tcib9Ik

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Malinois are better left for very experienced handlers, a GSD is a little slower but easier to handle.



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Old 08-31-2013, 09:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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look for a quality breeder and then raise the pup with love and basic obedience.

If you're not an experienced handler, don't even think about training your dog for protection. You could ruin a good pup.

A good GSD who loves you devotedly will put themselves out for you.

No dog can fully protect you. They cannot stop a bullet.

Most would be intruders will not choose the home that houses a GSD.
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Buying dvds and "training" your dog is the worst thing you can do. You will ruin a pup that an experienced trainer may not be able to fix. If u want a safe, reliable, and effective dog, it needs to be fine by a professional. The slightest thing can ruin a dog for life as far as protection goes. Ob is one thing. PP is a whole other world.
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if you don't need a protective dog why go through the years
of training to have a protective dog? why don't you buy a weapon?
you have to find the right dog for protection work. find a professional
trainer that teaches protection.

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So, currently I am deployed to Afghanistan. Upon my return to El Paso I will be purchasing a German Shepherd puppy to raise for home protection.

I have done some research for a reputable breeder and the pickings are slim in my area, nonetheless.

I am thinking of home training my puppy, I have been looking at a few options as far as DVD's go.
The DVD's I'm looking at, in no particular order are:

1. Various Leerburg
2. Schutzhund Protection Series by Canine Training Systems
3. Schutzhund with Gottfried Dildei- Protection

My end goal is to have our newest family member; social, defensive, alert, bite on command.

>>>>> I have no need for an attack dog per se, just something to buy me time until I arm myself.<<<<<

Your comments or experiences would be appreciated.
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Old 09-01-2013, 10:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A good GSD who loves you devotedly will put themselves out for you.

No dog can fully protect you. They cannot stop a bullet.
I would have fully agreed with that statement before buying my dog and doing PP training with him and many of his litter mates. Gunnar was one of 8 in his litter. I've seen 4 of those dogs in addition to a dozen others from the same sire and out of Gunnar's mom and one other female. These dogs all respond to their owners differently and all deal with stress differently and some seem to really enjoy bite work while others could probably be handled without a bite sleeve (not really, but almost).
Point being, I no longer believe that any loving dog has the capacity or the drive to get between their owner and an imminent threat.

And I totally agree with the OP here, my goal with my dog is that he buys me enough time to get away from a threat or to deploy other options. I've told my kids, if they are home alone and someone comes in the house, first thing they do is scream (it sets Gunnar on high alert) then if he's in his kennel and they can get to him, they let him out. That single thing will buy them the time needed to get out of the house or to get locked into a bedroom and call the cops.

But like these guys have said above in this thread, I could not have trained my pup to the level he is at without a good trainer and a proper decoy who has taught him how to bite correctly. I'm a good obedience trainer, but it takes more than one person to help in training a protection dog.
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