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Old 04-18-2013, 09:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I m Pamis and I have a female GSD 12 months old which I m training for mondioring. She has very good prey and food drives. The problem which I can not solve for days of training is the weak bite she has in the tug. Traying to work the aport exersice she brings the tug back to me and spit it away, or she keep it in her mouth so weak that is very easy to take it without any commant. I think that she doesn t claim the tug too much. Do you have any anser in my problem.

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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might be handler conflict where she does not want to challenge you for the tug, you need to build possession in her, and build her trust in you, Lance Collins has some good techniques but i do not have enough expertise to relate them second-hand and don't want to give bad advice.

what is she like if someone else holds the tug not you.

how often did you make her out in her earlier deveopment.
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I don't 100% understand your question so I'm going to give a couple suggestions.

1) If she comes back to you with the tug try holding her under the chin and just pet her calmly. If the tug falls out she loses it. Kick it back to decoy or use one of you hands and start the game over again.

2) If it's just you playing tug with your dog then build drive for the tug. Move it around in a matter that makes the dog really want it. Once dog is on the bite really get into it. Use some acting skills and every movement of the dog over exaggerate yourself. I.E. dog torques head you throw your body in the direction. The dog will begin to think it did it. You can also pull the tug in an upward motion for a second and if it comes out of the dogs mouth it loses it and has to work for it all over again. Eventually you should be able to hang dog using the tug. Once the grip is how you like it, let the dog win.
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Another thought maybe the tug. Dante started with a jute rag and still likes that and so for his first tug I got a jute one. He did the same thing you are describing and so at his trainers we tried different ones. Right now he is using a leather one. I hope this helps.


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Another thought maybe the tug. Dante started with a jute rag and still likes that and so for his first tug I got a jute one. He did the same thing you are describing and so at his trainers we tried different ones. Right now he is using a leather one. I hope this helps.


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Old 04-19-2013, 10:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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She might be too young to be looking for this outcome.
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She might be too young to be looking for this outcome.
This is what I am thinking. Some dogs mature slower than others. Some dogs are alligators from very young ages. Mine was not. He did not really start getting strong until about 15 months.
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Thak you for your answers. I tried already the most of these teqniques. The big question is that she bites like an alligator in the suit. Also she is chasing the tug while this is in motion like crazy. When she bites the tug can hold it in her mouth for a long time while this is in motion but when I hold it still she spit it away.
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Are you outing her a lot?

When you grab a toy or tug, do you do a lot of outing?

This was an issue I had with my male. He did not have a great bite (genetics) to begin with and so when I started working on outing the tug or toy, I over did it. I was told to go back to basics, stop outing him and it worked.
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What do you mean "outing" ?
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