Gnash tries out PSA - Page 2

Packen · 10-02-2012, 04:16 PM

Thanks Castlemaid, WildWolf and Trickeyshepherd.

**JakodaCD OA** · 10-02-2012, 05:53 PM

awesome!!! nice dog

Catu · 10-02-2012, 07:17 PM

Cool!!

PSA is something I'd really like to try if I were in the USA!

onyx'girl · 10-02-2012, 09:38 PM

How many ribs did he break?

RocketDog · 10-02-2012, 09:41 PM

I loved the hit. And the reaction from whoever was filming, heh. "oooooo....."

cliffson1 · 10-03-2012, 07:21 AM

Solid dog!

Packen · 10-03-2012, 11:10 AM

Thanks everyone. Jane, I believe no ribs were fractured in this take down, however, the decoy mentioned that he was sore even after 2 days!

Cliffson, I have a question for you as I am not knowledgeable in lines and pedigrees. Gnash is a very dominant and hard dog with high active/forward defense drive, does switch to prey when we want but genetic response is always high active defense. At home he is very social with high protective instinct, does distinguish very clearly between actual threat or non threat. Handlers that have his siblings also report of similar traits. Can you review his pedigree (in sig) and see if the above traits are what you would predict?

My younger dog "Creasy" is the polar opposite. Very high prey drive, we have to work to bring defense out, absolute and strong grips, high social drive, some nervousness around environmental variables. Same question for Creasy, do you see similar traits when you study his pedigree? Sorry for the extensive questions but wanted your opinion.

SilentDobe · 10-03-2012, 10:22 PM

Great hit! You should get serious in PSA with a dog like that. You would do well especially with your IPO background. A lot of the upper levels are about control. Very nice GSD. There aren't a ton of good ones in the sport...we need more. Again, mostly Malinois dominated.

cliffson1 · 10-03-2012, 11:59 PM

Packen, I was thinking about posting something about your dog when I went out training tonight....lo and behold I find your post

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Your dog and this type of dog is the type I have been promoting for past 15 years. A very good Czech/West mix. The purpose being to have a dog that can do well in sport, but easily convert to PSA or police work if introduced. Your dogs father was cut out of same cloth...also a Czech/ West mix. Know Stucka personally, he could easily transition to real work....he would have no problem in PSA. Of course Mike and Nate have good stock, and access to people with indepth knowledge on both lines. You have a very nicely bred dog for either sport or real LE work, while still being a family dog. I could go into specific traits of both sides but I think you have done your homework.....but definitely not surprised at your dogs performance from a genetic point of view. Of course genetics will not necessitate what a dog is as some like to point out, but it gives a blueprint of what you are trying to achieve. And your dog fits the blueprint!

Packen · 10-05-2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cliffson1

Packen, I was thinking about posting something about your dog when I went out training tonight....lo and behold I find your post

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Your dog and this type of dog is the type I have been promoting for past 15 years. A very good Czech/West mix. The purpose being to have a dog that can do well in sport, but easily convert to PSA or police work if introduced. Your dogs father was cut out of same cloth...also a Czech/ West mix. Know Stucka personally, he could easily transition to real work....he would have no problem in PSA. Of course Mike and Nate have good stock, and access to people with indepth knowledge on both lines. You have a very nicely bred dog for either sport or real LE work, while still being a family dog. I could go into specific traits of both sides but I think you have done your homework.....but definitely not surprised at your dogs performance from a genetic point of view. Of course genetics will not necessitate what a dog is as some like to point out, but it gives a blueprint of what you are trying to achieve. And your dog fits the blueprint!

Thanks Cliffson1, appreciate your time and study. It is comforting to know that the Gnash's temperament was actually targetted by design. Being an engineer it is comforting to know the outcome was designed and not by accident.

What are your thoughts about Creasy, we see a lot of variation in this litter.

10-02-2012, 04:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Packen Master Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 675	Thanks Castlemaid, WildWolf and Trickeyshepherd. __________________ Gnash von den Sportwaffen IPO3x2, AD, HOT Brimwylf Creasy

10-02-2012, 05:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 17,516	awesome!!! nice dog __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

10-02-2012, 07:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
Catu Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Valdivia, Chile Posts: 4,536	Cool!! PSA is something I'd really like to try if I were in the USA! __________________ Diabla, my Daemon; SchH A, RH-T A Akela, my Direwolf; IPO-A1

10-02-2012, 09:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 21,169	How many ribs did he break? __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

10-03-2012, 11:10 AM	#17 (permalink)
Packen Master Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 675	Thanks everyone. Jane, I believe no ribs were fractured in this take down, however, the decoy mentioned that he was sore even after 2 days! Cliffson, I have a question for you as I am not knowledgeable in lines and pedigrees. Gnash is a very dominant and hard dog with high active/forward defense drive, does switch to prey when we want but genetic response is always high active defense. At home he is very social with high protective instinct, does distinguish very clearly between actual threat or non threat. Handlers that have his siblings also report of similar traits. Can you review his pedigree (in sig) and see if the above traits are what you would predict? My younger dog "Creasy" is the polar opposite. Very high prey drive, we have to work to bring defense out, absolute and strong grips, high social drive, some nervousness around environmental variables. Same question for Creasy, do you see similar traits when you study his pedigree? Sorry for the extensive questions but wanted your opinion. __________________ Gnash von den Sportwaffen IPO3x2, AD, HOT Brimwylf Creasy Last edited by Packen; 10-03-2012 at 11:13 AM.

10-02-2012, 09:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
RocketDog Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 2,295	I loved the hit. And the reaction from whoever was filming, heh. "oooooo....."

10-03-2012, 07:21 AM	#16 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,868	Solid dog!

10-03-2012, 10:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
SilentDobe Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 66	Great hit! You should get serious in PSA with a dog like that. You would do well especially with your IPO background. A lot of the upper levels are about control. Very nice GSD. There aren't a ton of good ones in the sport...we need more. Again, mostly Malinois dominated. __________________ Jerry Lee vom Mandalyn-GSD-CGC, CD, PSA PDC Nassors The Saints Silence-Dobe-CGC, PSA I HIT, IPO IA

10-03-2012, 11:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,868	Packen, I was thinking about posting something about your dog when I went out training tonight....lo and behold I find your post! Your dog and this type of dog is the type I have been promoting for past 15 years. A very good Czech/West mix. The purpose being to have a dog that can do well in sport, but easily convert to PSA or police work if introduced. Your dogs father was cut out of same cloth...also a Czech/ West mix. Know Stucka personally, he could easily transition to real work....he would have no problem in PSA. Of course Mike and Nate have good stock, and access to people with indepth knowledge on both lines. You have a very nicely bred dog for either sport or real LE work, while still being a family dog. I could go into specific traits of both sides but I think you have done your homework.....but definitely not surprised at your dogs performance from a genetic point of view. Of course genetics will not necessitate what a dog is as some like to point out, but it gives a blueprint of what you are trying to achieve. And your dog fits the blueprint!

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