Brookville, IN (Franklin County), mom w/ 11 pups, outside in freezing cold - Page 4

Holmeshx2 · 12-04-2010, 07:57 AM

Yes they are better off in the "right" individual home with tons of love and attention (one on one) and less other animals around to not chance the puppies getting sick from them. However Andrea is in the same boat as I am (from what I've read) and not able to afford everything on her own without the backing of a rescue. However she would definitely need to contact rescues and become an actual foster home which is what I was in the process of doing trying to find one willing to take on the pups with the offer of my home. There are a lot of things to think about and weigh against each other in this situation read back on the story of Stormy one of the pups came down very sick and was fighting for her little life and the bills rack up pretty quickly.

What if the mama dog is dog reactive then Andreas home would absolutely not be good for her and her pups even though they are kept seperated it may be too much for her to handle right now. At least they are indoors and safe right now and something to keep in mind raising a litter of small dogs is quite a bit different from a litter of 11 GSDs or GSD mixes thats a lot of marge mouths to feed and a whole lot more space and needs when they become mobile and begin to terrorize things along with socialization as necessary so they are great when they are ready to go to their new homes.

Samajade · 12-04-2010, 08:27 AM

Yeah, I completely understand that - it's a huge undertaking and could be financially devastating. I thought there was the backing of a rescue with this one (that luvfurmutts reference), and that's why I thought they could still be fostered if she wanted to. Like I said, I knew I must've been misunderstanding something!

Rerun · 12-04-2010, 09:01 AM

I don't think raising a litter of doxy's can even remotely prepare one for raising a litter of GSD's. One GSD puppy 8 weeks old would be about the same size of one adult doxy....I can't imagine having them in a dining room. Sure for a week or two if they are newborns that might work, but I can't even imagine the setup that would be necessary for ELEVEN 4, 6, 8 week olds and momma. The amount of pee and poop would be beyond imagination if someone isn't used to having litters of large breed puppies. We have done two litters of 3 (one had momma, one didn't) and now two bottle babies with no momma. All medium to large breed. It is a TON of work, and only a max of 3 at a time! All happened to be during the winter or early spring, so outdoor time was limited at best or none at all.

Regarding why are they going to the humane society vs a foster home - as has been pointed out a few times, she needed a rescue's backing and it doesn't sound like she contacted the shelter directly to offer a foster home for the puppies. These shelters don't read the forums, if you are interested you have to contact them directly.

I don't know of any rescues that would take on a foster home and immediately place a mother and litter of 11 with them. They generally prefer to use foster homes they are familiar with for something like that. What if someone says they can do it, then takes them on and realizes they got in WAY over their head and calls up the rescue saying, "Sorry, they gotta go by tomorrow!"

Then what? Now the rescue is responsible for them and they are basically screwed.

Rerun · 12-04-2010, 09:07 AM

Please don't take that the wrong way. It's as Holmes said....they are better off in a home, but it has to be the RIGHT home. Otherwise they won't be better off at all. It was a great offer, but would need a lot of things worked out.

Samajade · 12-04-2010, 09:14 AM

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Regarding why are they going to the humane society vs a foster home - as has been pointed out a few times, she needed a rescue's backing and it doesn't sound like she contacted the shelter directly to offer a foster home for the puppies. These shelters don't read the forums, if you are interested you have to contact them directly.

Yup I understand all of that that completely. As mentioned, my mistake here was that I thought there *was* a rescue in place and wondered if it might be worth it for a potential foster family to call them and let them know of their offer. That's what I meant in my first post about this - I assumed that the shelter and the rescue did not know about her offer and was just asking if it'd be worth it to let them know of it - on the assumption that the pups would be better of raised in a home. But never mind - since there is apparently no rescue in place, all of this matters little! At least they are out of the cold, thankfully, and are warm and safe!

Rerun · 12-04-2010, 09:20 AM

They could certainly contact that humane society that took them in and see if they are willing to let the family be fostered, and go from there.

Ryder&SophieSue · 12-04-2010, 09:48 AM

my hubby called on this family yesterday while i was at work...they wanted someone who is with rescue which i understand.he said they told him that they didn't want them going to bowling green, because of the distance they would have to travel, and that their was someone else taking them... but then told him that there was a rescue in KY that maybe would take them in a week or so, cause they are only 5 days old right now.So he was quite upset that that is where they went after alll...They were not full blood but some sort of mixesIt is actaully my dining room/kitchen together...i know sheps are alot different than doxies, but at the same time it would not bother me, this is something that i have been wanting to do for years and just have not been able to...

Ryder&SophieSue · 12-06-2010, 06:58 PM

has anyone heard anythng on this family?

katieliz · 12-06-2010, 07:11 PM

so they didn't go to bowling green after all? are they safe?

Ryder&SophieSue · 12-06-2010, 07:41 PM

idk...thats what i am trying to figure out

12-04-2010, 09:48 AM	#37 (permalink)
Ryder&SophieSue Master Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Southern, IL Posts: 585	my hubby called on this family yesterday while i was at work...they wanted someone who is with rescue which i understand.he said they told him that they didn't want them going to bowling green, because of the distance they would have to travel, and that their was someone else taking them... but then told him that there was a rescue in KY that maybe would take them in a week or so, cause they are only 5 days old right now.So he was quite upset that that is where they went after alll...They were not full blood but some sort of mixesIt is actaully my dining room/kitchen together...i know sheps are alot different than doxies, but at the same time it would not bother me, this is something that i have been wanting to do for years and just have not been able to... __________________ Andrea..... Love all my kids 2 and 4 legged.

12-06-2010, 06:58 PM	#38 (permalink)
Ryder&SophieSue Master Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Southern, IL Posts: 585	has anyone heard anythng on this family? __________________ Andrea..... Love all my kids 2 and 4 legged.

12-06-2010, 07:11 PM	#39 (permalink)
katieliz Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: york township, mi Posts: 6,324	so they didn't go to bowling green after all? are they safe? __________________ mom to seraphina blue & the cashman miss jeni-take-a-ride, rescued 7/07 shangri la's great white caesar, rescued 4/09 hearthside's cinderfella (RIP 4/20/09) shep von bellefontaine (RIP 6/9/10) voodoo lily (dsh) & cricket (african grey)

12-06-2010, 07:41 PM	#40 (permalink)
Ryder&SophieSue Master Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Southern, IL Posts: 585	idk...thats what i am trying to figure out __________________ Andrea..... Love all my kids 2 and 4 legged.

12-04-2010, 07:57 AM	#31 (permalink)
Holmeshx2 Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 1,646	Yes they are better off in the "right" individual home with tons of love and attention (one on one) and less other animals around to not chance the puppies getting sick from them. However Andrea is in the same boat as I am (from what I've read) and not able to afford everything on her own without the backing of a rescue. However she would definitely need to contact rescues and become an actual foster home which is what I was in the process of doing trying to find one willing to take on the pups with the offer of my home. There are a lot of things to think about and weigh against each other in this situation read back on the story of Stormy one of the pups came down very sick and was fighting for her little life and the bills rack up pretty quickly. What if the mama dog is dog reactive then Andreas home would absolutely not be good for her and her pups even though they are kept seperated it may be too much for her to handle right now. At least they are indoors and safe right now and something to keep in mind raising a litter of small dogs is quite a bit different from a litter of 11 GSDs or GSD mixes thats a lot of marge mouths to feed and a whole lot more space and needs when they become mobile and begin to terrorize things along with socialization as necessary so they are great when they are ready to go to their new homes.

12-04-2010, 08:27 AM	#32 (permalink)
Samajade Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 183	Yeah, I completely understand that - it's a huge undertaking and could be financially devastating. I thought there was the backing of a rescue with this one (that luvfurmutts reference), and that's why I thought they could still be fostered if she wanted to. Like I said, I knew I must've been misunderstanding something!

12-04-2010, 09:01 AM	#33 (permalink)
Rerun Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,608	I don't think raising a litter of doxy's can even remotely prepare one for raising a litter of GSD's. One GSD puppy 8 weeks old would be about the same size of one adult doxy....I can't imagine having them in a dining room. Sure for a week or two if they are newborns that might work, but I can't even imagine the setup that would be necessary for ELEVEN 4, 6, 8 week olds and momma. The amount of pee and poop would be beyond imagination if someone isn't used to having litters of large breed puppies. We have done two litters of 3 (one had momma, one didn't) and now two bottle babies with no momma. All medium to large breed. It is a TON of work, and only a max of 3 at a time! All happened to be during the winter or early spring, so outdoor time was limited at best or none at all. Regarding why are they going to the humane society vs a foster home - as has been pointed out a few times, she needed a rescue's backing and it doesn't sound like she contacted the shelter directly to offer a foster home for the puppies. These shelters don't read the forums, if you are interested you have to contact them directly. I don't know of any rescues that would take on a foster home and immediately place a mother and litter of 11 with them. They generally prefer to use foster homes they are familiar with for something like that. What if someone says they can do it, then takes them on and realizes they got in WAY over their head and calls up the rescue saying, "Sorry, they gotta go by tomorrow!" Then what? Now the rescue is responsible for them and they are basically screwed.

12-04-2010, 09:07 AM	#34 (permalink)
Rerun Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,608	Please don't take that the wrong way. It's as Holmes said....they are better off in a home, but it has to be the RIGHT home. Otherwise they won't be better off at all. It was a great offer, but would need a lot of things worked out.

12-04-2010, 09:20 AM	#36 (permalink)
Rerun Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,608	They could certainly contact that humane society that took them in and see if they are willing to let the family be fostered, and go from there.

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