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09-06-2014 03:05 AM
Sabis mom So I know you all don't like me much but I just read this whole thread and it's fascinating.
Shadow is one of those 'target dogs'. No matter how hard I try dogs want to attack her. She is now dog aggressive.

I am not a tiny woman, but by no means large. 5'8" 135lbs

Sabi took offense to a younger bitch pushing her luck and they got right at it. I grabbed Sabi by the collar and pulled her away while sort of hip checking the other bitch away from us. Fight over. Both girls had minor injuries, I had none. Combined weight of dogs, 140 lbs.

Bud got attacked by a loose dog, some furry mix large and brown. The other dogs owner and I both grabbed back legs and pulled. I got bitten, he didn't. His dog was focused on Bud, as soon as I touched Bud he redirected. A sharp 'Hey!' minimized it but it was a nice bite.

Bud and Sabi went at it over a pup I was fostering that Bud got to close to. Hose on power spray and some sharp smacks with a leash and they both retreated. Bud had some gashes, Sabi did not.

Shadow got attacked by a loose dog when she was 4 mnths old or so. It had her in its mouth and was shaking her. I was alone. I couldn't let go of Shadows leash as it was trying to pull her away from me so I kicked it, repeatedly, in the face until it let go. Then I kept kicking until it wanted to go somewhere else.

There are any number of ways to break up a fight, and some work better on some dogs. Ultimately I would rather prevent them. It is also worth noting that a vast majority of dog fights are not much more the noise, slobber and flying fur.
To the OP, I used to watch Sabs 'tune' youngsters. It looked mean but ultimately all she was doing was teaching them to respect their elders. She would get tired of their crap and grab them or snap at them, they would yelp and cower, she would hover for a minute and then play would resume at a more polite level. That said, I do give you credit for your willingness to defend your dog and I am sure you have learned your lesson.
09-06-2014 01:57 AM
Sarah~
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Originally Posted by lalachka View Post
Break sticks should only be used by owners I heard because you will get bit after he releases. Is that true?
So hitting the pit until he lets go? With what?
I have a break stick and carry it with me, I would use it on a pit that wasn't mine. But the couple of times we've run into a pit that came after the dogs once I got the dogs separated the pit was nice as could be to me, so I have never had to go any further.
09-06-2014 12:37 AM
lalachka
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That is pretty much how it works, but the dogs adrenalin is going from the fight, they are still mainly focused on the other dog. Getting to a point where the dog doesn't care/relax can a long time, depends on the dog.
This makes sense. Thank you for your patience))))
09-06-2014 12:34 AM
Nigel
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I don't get it

I thought wb works because you lift the dog's back feet in the air and he's then busy sidestepping with his front feet so that he doesn't plant his face in the ground. That's not how wb works?

If it is then can't the dog decide that he doesn't care, stop sidestepping and just bend and bite you?
That is pretty much how it works, but the dogs adrenalin is going from the fight, they are still mainly focused on the other dog. Getting to a point where the dog doesn't care/relax can a long time, depends on the dog.
09-06-2014 12:18 AM
lalachka
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Originally Posted by Nigel View Post
The dog wants to stay up, they are still pumped up and don't want to go down and be vulnerable.
I don't get it

I thought wb works because you lift the dog's back feet in the air and he's then busy sidestepping with his front feet so that he doesn't plant his face in the ground. That's not how wb works?

If it is then can't the dog decide that he doesn't care, stop sidestepping and just bend and bite you?
09-06-2014 12:04 AM
Nigel
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Originally Posted by lalachka View Post
Yes, actual fighting. What's everyone else talking about.

It was mentioned earlier the WB could get you bit if the dogs were in a ramped up excited state, but not quite in all out fight yet, which is certainly possible.

I tried to wb my dog at home when he wasn't fighting, just to see what it's like and I can't handle him that way even in peaceful mode. If he was smaller then yes. So for me wb is out.

But even a smaller dog, can't it decide it doesn't care that his face will get smashed to the ground for a few moments and bend back?
The dog wants to stay up, they are still pumped up and don't want to go down and be vulnerable.
09-05-2014 11:51 PM
lalachka
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Originally Posted by Nigel View Post
I think Ed knows what he's talking about, the wheelbarrow method does work and yes, as it was pointed out, for actual fighting. IME, With one clear aggressor, it's not too difficult to WB that dog and break it up. When both dogs are equally involved, someone will need to grab the other dog or you'll just be dragging both. DW's trainer prefers to grab the tail. The effect is the same and it works for him, but I'd be concerned about further injury. I'm sure there are dogs that won't let go and some other method may be necessary, but so far the times I've used WB, it has worked.
Yes, actual fighting. What's everyone else talking about.


I tried to wb my dog at home when he wasn't fighting, just to see what it's like and I can't handle him that way even in peaceful mode. If he was smaller then yes. So for me wb is out.

But even a smaller dog, can't it decide it doesn't care that his face will get smashed to the ground for a few moments and bend back?
09-05-2014 11:34 PM
Msmaria My neighbors have a pit bull and not much in the way of getting that dog off once it grabs hold. Saw neighbor use a leather leash wrap it around neck and twist until the dog went unconscious. Needless to say i don't walk that direction with my dog.
09-05-2014 11:27 PM
my boy diesel
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prevention is key, haven't seen much banter on that.
this times like 100
or 1000
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09-05-2014 09:24 PM
Nigel
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Originally Posted by lalachka View Post
Got you. It didn't sound like a good idea to me but I figured Ed Frawley knows what he's talking about.


Question. Lets say the attacker is a pit and he doesn't let go. Then what? Break sticks should only be used by owners I heard because you will get bit after he releases. Is that true?
So hitting the pit until he lets go? With what?
I think Ed knows what he's talking about, the wheelbarrow method does work and yes, as it was pointed out, for actual fighting. IME, With one clear aggressor, it's not too difficult to WB that dog and break it up. When both dogs are equally involved, someone will need to grab the other dog or you'll just be dragging both. DW's trainer prefers to grab the tail. The effect is the same and it works for him, but I'd be concerned about further injury. I'm sure there are dogs that won't let go and some other method may be necessary, but so far the times I've used WB, it has worked.
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