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09-06-2014 09:24 PM
Kat72 Yes, command, when he does, click and treat? That's what I do. I'm not sure what was unclear...I guess I was. Saying he does it in the house regardless of a clicker or not. But I want there to be a constant between in and out, which is why I want to use both

Potential issue? He's pooped in the house once a day for three days now. This JUST HAPPENED. Please tell me it's just an offset of schedules, and I don't need to worry about house training again. He pees outside, and it guess I'm just missing his time to poo, but like I said. This is a RECENT issue

Update: his attitude has changed DRAMATICALLY. He does still bark, but hasn't lunged at anyone. Took him on his second walk this morning, didn't bark at chickens, people nothing. Just sniffed everything. The head collar is a godsend, no pulling, fussing. Our relationship has improved, however not sure about the SO, and that's ok with me. If he won't work with him, then it's his own fault that the dog doesn't listen. I can't change that by myself
09-06-2014 01:19 PM
Cassidy's Mom
Originally Posted by Kat72 View Post
inside the house I don't need a clicker, voice commands work 95% of the time...
I'm confused - how exactly are you using the clicker? It's supposed to be a marker, after your dog complies with a command, and then you reward. You wouldn't be using a voice command OR a clicker, you'd be using both. Or you could use a verbal marker such as "yes!" instead of a clicker. A marker tells the dog that what they just did is correct, and that a reward will follow.
09-06-2014 07:49 AM
Kat72 he's been back since Aug 22, I had the head collar two days before I walked him on it, putting it on treating him when he stopped rubbing his nose and going thru sit and down, petting and generally getting him used to it.

inside the house I don't need a clicker, voice commands work 95% of the time, the other 5% I do use the clicker and he still listens. He's attentive, looks to me for direction and usually stays pretty close. Yesterday we played back and forth with a tug toy and he'd chase it down the hall, bring it back, etc.

we lived together for 6mos before he went missing, so they've been around each other. But he still kind of listened to Brian but not nearly as much as he did me. They never really had a 'training relationship'.
09-05-2014 07:19 PM
David Winners How long has he been back in the home?

Was your BF in the picture when you had him before?

Did you condition him to the head collar or just put it on him?

Have you tried markers workout the clicker, just using your voice?
09-05-2014 04:22 PM
angierose If he's not taking food when you are putting him in a sit, it sounds like something is stressing him. Could be the head collar, or your actions, or just training itself. What is his body language like during the training? Is he engaged at all with you, or is he avoiding your eyes or doing other submissive-type things?

If your BF won't work with him, I don't know that their relationship will improve at all.
09-05-2014 03:33 PM
Kat72 I did, no nose taps, belly pokes, etc. Just placing him in a sit position and giving him the command again. With a click and I tried giving him the treat but wouldn't take it. Then he'd lay down and rub his nose on the ground, (have a new head collar to keep him from pulling) should I have taken the head collar off?maybe that was a part of what was distracting?

I want to start implementing his training outside so he knows that either in or out he needs to listen. Also making him back away from the door before I open it has kept him from trying to get out.

how should I approach the issue of him completely ignoring my BF? I explained to him that he needs to work with him more but I don't think he's giving Odin much hope in that aspect. Honestly if he doesn't try there isn't much I can do., but still.

back in OK I was the one who trained him with no help from my ex husband, could this be a reason why he doesn't listen to him? I read thru another post on the topic and a reply was to let Odin go to him as he gets comfortable being around him, without Brian trying to go to Odin first.
09-05-2014 10:48 AM
MichaelE I hope that other 70% of the time you showed him what you wanted and showed him how to do it.

Like Selzer said, if you don't enforce the command he will just learn to ignore you. He cannot have a choice in the matter. He must obey.

But be gentle, but firm, and show him. You want to gain his trust back.
09-05-2014 09:33 AM
Kat72 how should I approach him being completely disinterested in anything outside? In my back yard I had him on a leash just going thru sit and down, he only did it on occasion and even then it wasn't the immediate response I get when working him in the house. I took him around the block with the walking collar, and he ignored the dog loose a cross the street barking at us (which I was very proud of btw) and then tried the simple commands again. With only like 30% of the time he did it, probably less.
09-04-2014 09:58 PM
Kat72 I never even considered that, thank you selzer
09-04-2014 08:58 PM
selzer I would stop telling the dog to come, if you can't immediately enforce it, meaning you have a line on him. Whether he has known that command before or not doesn't matter. What he knows now is that he has a choice, a choice that he needs to not have. Call his name, dig in your pocket for a treat, run in the other direction, but if you use the command COME, and he doesn't have to, then you are training him to ignore you.
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