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09-07-2014 01:42 AM
llombardo
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Originally Posted by lyssa62 View Post
so my roxy's behavior doppelganger is making huge progress~~~ now can you send your behavior person over to my house

I haven't read all of the comments yet but had to bounce in on this one and look for suggestions.....I was at our local mom and pop pet store the other day and the owner was talking about this lower protein thing.....and now I see it here cuz I had NO CLUE what he was talking about and neither did he ...he only said after we were talking about Roxy that he has heard of people with high energy dogs going low protein....however in his whole store we were still coming up with the lowest protein right at around 28....

..........so HELP ...........I need a list of some at least 4 star foods with a low protein level that I MIGHT be able to find around here. Right now she's bouncing between blue buffalo rice and lamb / and / taste of the wild bison ( just cuz she's a picky little eater)
I feed Infinia Salmon and Sweet Potatoe, the protein is 22%. There are different flavors. It's listed as a 5 star food, but the flavor I use is 3.5 stars. If you read on dog food advisor some of the flavors due to meat content get lower ratings.

It says...
Above-average protein. Near-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.
Free of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a notable amount of meat.
Bottom line?
Infinia Dog Food is a plant-based kibble using a notable amount of assorted meat meals as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 5 stars.
Enthusiastically recommended.
Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content.
09-07-2014 12:49 AM
Msmaria
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Originally Posted by SuperG View Post
Msmaria....

You have made some great successes with your dog....is the low protein diet still in effect?

SuperG
Yes, still below 20%. The only thing that has changed ( saw behaviorist on weds) and he said he can come back in the bedroom but on his dog bed. If daughter allows him on bed he has to be invited up, but not often. Still no couch etc.
09-07-2014 12:23 AM
SuperG Msmaria....

You have made some great successes with your dog....is the low protein diet still in effect?

SuperG
09-07-2014 12:20 AM
Msmaria
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Originally Posted by selzer View Post
This makes me nervous. It seems like two weeks ago you were asking about whether or not you were doing the right thing, and talking about the dog going after a guy, and reacting to a small child within the previous month.

Now you show a picture of the dog in a regular zoo. I am sorry, but, there are people, kids, water, dogs, chuck its, toys, commotion. It looks like flooding, and while that can work in some situation, it can also go way wrong.

If it does, than the dog will most likely be euthanized -- no longer in your hands, and charges may be filed against you as well. I guess I probably wouldn't risk it until I had a lot more time into the new training/behavior regime.


Thank you Seltzer for your advice. I did post two weeks ago however it was not about asking questions of whether i was doing the right thing. It was about my experience with a behaviorist and how its helped. as been 4 weeks of taking him out in public every day. (First 2 weeks no triggers) 6 weeks total working with the behaviorist . He has not shown any anxious or aggressive behavior in that time.he is trained not to go after any other ball but his and if anybody else or another dog goes after it he leaves it. We have trained him that way since 6 weeks as I have 2 small dogs. How long do you suggest before I have him off leash in a public event? Actually that question doesn't matter because we rarely go off leash in public anymore.
09-07-2014 12:00 AM
selzer This makes me nervous. It seems like two weeks ago you were asking about whether or not you were doing the right thing, and talking about the dog going after a guy, and reacting to a small child within the previous month.

Now you show a picture of the dog in a regular zoo. I am sorry, but, there are people, kids, water, dogs, chuck its, toys, commotion. It looks like flooding, and while that can work in some situation, it can also go way wrong.

If it does, than the dog will most likely be euthanized -- no longer in your hands, and charges may be filed against you as well. I guess I probably wouldn't risk it until I had a lot more time into the new training/behavior regime.
09-06-2014 11:45 PM
Msmaria Just wanted to update. Will try to update for awhile so everyone can see how things are going. I will be honest as possible, even if there are setbacks. As I'm hoping others will be helped by our progress or setback.

Another good week. No barking at all. He's even sitting better for petting. I need to get some pics of strange men around him, but I'm still too busy watching him to pull out my phone to take a picture. Plus that would be a little weird. Asking a stranger " excuse me, do you mind me taking a picture to prove to some people that he's allowing you to pet him and not ttrying to tear your face off"
I have posted this pic in another thread, but I think it shows how many people he was around this sat afternoon and he didnt have any issues. He was only interested in all the balls and squeaky toys that were available to play with. He even allowed a strange male vender at the event to fit him with a doggie backpack. He only smelled him in the face as he wrapped it around him to secure it.
He's still not the type to seek out people and doesn't lick anyone, but at least he's not barking, staring and more relaxed around men.
09-03-2014 04:02 PM
wyoung2153 Very interesting and motivational Thank you for sharing, I'm looking forward to continued updates
09-03-2014 04:02 PM
Msmaria Sorry i didn't address.

Yes, the dog can have a dog bed. It's just not in my room anymore, it's in the livingroom. At least for now, after a solid couple of weeks we can move it back into the bedroom. Dex usually just sleeps on the floor outside my room as its been hot lately and the wood floor is cooler. He doesn't recommend dogs on the couch ever he said. But insists if I let him on he has to be invited! Since dex doesn't guard the couch from anyone I think it's ok, but then again what do I know.

Dex is continuing to improve. It will be a month and 1 week since he's barked at anyone. hes less anxious and more playful on walks. I would video it but u saw how my last 2 videos turned out lol
09-03-2014 03:59 PM
Muskeg While I think food can be significant for an animal's health, I do not believe that the protein is the problem.

Based on what I know about dog nutrition and how a dog processes food, I'd expect carbs to be much more of an issue- giving that sugar rush and insulin boost of highs/lows. A dog on high protein, high fat, low carb diet would have a more naturally digested, steady source of energy than one on a low protein, high carb diet. If the food is low protein, it is probably high carb.

I've heard of more than one person who had a hyper dog mellow the dog out by feeding fewer or no carbs and more fat/protein. As far as meat/protein and aggression being linked, I don't buy it. Some of the most non-aggressive dogs I know ("eurohound" sled dogs) eat very high protein/fat diets. Aggression is mostly based in genetics, with some nurture/training, not diet-based.

That said, if it works for you, go for it. I have no issue with the placebo effect- if the changes in the dog are just based on owner expectations- the end result is still positive and no harm done. It sounds like you found a trainer who is making great progress for you and your dog. I'd never knock that!
09-03-2014 03:39 PM
my boy diesel
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To me some of this is over the top. Ok restricting bed/couch privleges, if you believe that makes a dog "dominant" fine. But no dog bed? Where is he supposed to lay?
if this hasnt been addressed yet i would guess that it means the dog feels he owns too many things and dogs should never feel they own things in the house
a dog that does not have issues can have a dog bed but a dog with issues should not feel he has privliges like couch and bed and its own bed

it just helps the dog remember hes the lowest member of the pack
leaders control the resources and a comfy place to lay is a resource

btw dogs can sleep just fine on floors or lawns or in crates with no beds or blankies
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