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05-09-2015 02:27 PM
DocLane
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Originally Posted by Gwenhwyfair View Post
Hmmm. Per PDB Gucci had her hips and elbows approved in Europe. A-1
Interesting indeed. I visited the farm last weekend and I must have misunderstood Janette. She told me that her preference was PennHip and that she was planning to get Gucci's done at some point. It now makes perfect sense that she was waiting since the dog already had European A-1.

FWIW, she seems to be a very ethical and knowledgable breeder. This would be my first choice due to quality and close proximity to my home if I was not so late to the party.
05-08-2015 11:15 AM
Gwenhwyfair Depending on what you're looking for I'd suggest doing some more research too.

Triad is breeding several different lines that appear to be mixed with WL/WGSL and American Pet/ASL.

For example, take a look at Killian's pedigree and walk it back some.
05-08-2015 11:01 AM
Gwenhwyfair Hmmm. Per PDB Gucci had her hips and elbows approved in Europe. A-1

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2210935-gucci-vom-lohmanns-heide
05-06-2015 10:46 AM
DocLane I too am considering at GSD from Coldwater Farm. I'm looking for an above average drive Czech-Czech or Czech-W German (less desired). Gucci is pregnant and the sire is Grimm. I met Janette this week and was impressed. I have two concerns:

1) Gucci has never had a formal OFA or PennHip evaluation which is usually a requirement for me.

2) I'd be 4th in line for a male. A male is a requirement for me since my female GSD doesn't play nice with the ladies. Thus, there is a good chance that I will not get a dog from this litter.

I've also looked at Von Rom but she is not planning any litters for at least a year or more.

TriadK9 is just a couple of miles from me, but there are no hip/elbow evaluations that I can find on the OFA website.

Another consideration is AK9 which is just north of me and has a pregnant female. I sent them an inquiry and waiting to hear back about the hip / elbow evaluations (also not on the OFA website).

I'm looking as far South as Columbia, SC (Von der Sauk). Her dogs look great, OFA evaluations posted, and expecting litters this Summer.

Finally, I'm aware of Wayne Simanovich near Charlotte, but he seems to be more of boutique training operation.

I'd appreciate anyone that you know in the NC/VA/SC region with Czech working lines.
08-20-2014 01:36 PM
Lilie
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whatever you decide upon pup , young or adult, or wherever you go make sure that the dog is confident and social -- and then keep them this way.

people looking for that "protection" dog for the homefront that are novice , tend to look for the dog that puts on the display - quick to bark , looks like protection but is defensive , uncertainty .

when they get the pup , they tend to nuture reactions thinking that they are praising strength , meanwhile reinforcing fear .

they will stimulate reactivity .
Great post!
08-20-2014 11:35 AM
lalachka
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Sorry,but if you don't know why she is showing the titles of the parents then you really should not be posting about breeders Lalachka.
I do know. you're missing my point but it doesn't matter now
08-20-2014 11:06 AM
DobbyDad Sorry,but if you don't know why she is showing the titles of the parents then you really should not be posting about breeders Lalachka.
08-20-2014 11:04 AM
robk
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Originally Posted by martemchik View Post
Didn't you say that she doesn't exactly work them though. So I get it, they're titled, but it's not done by the breeder, and so it's basically guaranteed the breeder doesn't 100% know the limitations of the dogs or their weak points.

I'm not saying they're bad dogs. But if I were looking for a protection dog, I'd rather go to a breeder that works their stock and can be truthful about the weaknesses their dogs possess. I'm trying not to bash, or say negative things because I don't know the breeder, but from what I see, it's not worth going from Buffalo, NY to get a dog from this breeder.
I do agree that it is preferable for a breeder to work their own dogs. I cannot tell you how much I've learned about my dogs by working them on a regular basis.
08-20-2014 11:02 AM
lalachka
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I think the OP has moved on to another breeder and that is fine. I hope he gets the right dog for him and his situation.

I just wanted to add something about Janette and Robert from Coldwater since they were the breeder that was originally brought up. They are very concerned with the well being of their dogs after the sale. About 2 months ago, I had a medical emergency with one of my dogs and we spent the weekend in the Animal Urgent Care. Janette and Robert own an animal hospital but they are about two hours away and I could not take my dog to them because time was of the essence. However, they were excellent and stayed in contact with me the whole time. They communicated directly with the E-Vet and reviewed all the labs and notes. They were very supportive and genuinely concerned with what was happening. They wanted to know everything and they offered me a lot of help and guidance and even offered to run some extra tests for me for free if I wanted to bring my dog up there. I was very impressed with how engaged they were and how concerned they were. They might not title their own breeding dogs their selves but you will rarely find a breeder that is more engaged with the health and well being of the animals they produce long after the sale.
I gave an opinion based on what I saw. once you explained why she doesn't title I changed my mind. I just couldn't understand why she's showing the titles of the parents but doesn't have her own and now I do.

to me titles don't matter on their own, but I like for things to make sense and I want to know that I'm rewarding the right breeding practices.
08-20-2014 10:42 AM
carmspack whatever you decide upon pup , young or adult, or wherever you go make sure that the dog is confident and social -- and then keep them this way.

people looking for that "protection" dog for the homefront that are novice , tend to look for the dog that puts on the display - quick to bark , looks like protection but is defensive , uncertainty .

when they get the pup , they tend to nuture reactions thinking that they are praising strength , meanwhile reinforcing fear .

they will stimulate reactivity .
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