|08-18-2014 11:27 PM|
|DynamicDogLover||I may have some good leads for you... when you say you want a dog who can work, how do you mean that? GSDs "work" in different fields.|
|08-05-2014 11:03 AM|
A lot of times when you see that the titles end with the current generation, its basically the "breeder" purchasing good dogs from other breeders and throwing them together without doing the work to prove those actual dogs. You'll still have all the names on the pedigree, you can talk about how the grandparents have all those titles, but you yourself don't have to actually title.
They'll mostly sell to people like you who are "looking for a pet" by selling you on the fact that the dog will make a great pet, and clearly the lines can work if you ever want to do a sport of some sort. But you still don't know that for sure.
|08-05-2014 01:27 AM|
Best dog I've ever owned was from untitled parents. The dogs had the bloodlines I wanted. They were health tested. The guy just thought Schutzhund was stupid. Lol good enough reason for me. I saw his dogs work in person and was sold.
Health testing is the most important. Titles are great but not a deal breaker. I've met ipo3 dogs that should never ever be bred. I've seen titled dogs that the judge had have to been blind on trail day. Your best bet is get someone knowledgeable to go assess the parents for you.
|08-05-2014 01:00 AM|
I just put $$ down on a pup from untitled parents. The only reason I found the litter initially was a Youtube clip of some Bitework. The breeder has titled dogs in the past and also has dogs working in LE. That plus the vids were enough for me to take the dive.
What I dont like are fanciful stories that have no provable basis in reality, show dont just tell.
|08-05-2014 12:55 AM|
I will be breeding an untitled female (OFA and show rating and temperament tested)...she was worked and because I had severe injuries which pretty much put me out of commission for two years due to a car accident she did not get titled. BUT I titled her mother and her grandmother....she is 5 so needs to be bred.
That is much different than someone who is breeding untitled dogs, from untitled dog and has not titled anything in the family.
|08-04-2014 10:54 PM|
^^^ What they said.
My female's sire is not titled, but I know why. I have seen him work a bit in person to help confirm.
|08-04-2014 10:08 PM|
I agree with wanting to know why.
Personally health testing is my biggest concern but titles are my second - I want a dog from a breeder that knows their dogs inside and out. Health testing and titles are huge stepping stones
Do look at the types of tiles as well, some carry more weight then others
|08-04-2014 09:44 PM|
Health testing would be my biggest concern, but I would want to know why the parents didn't have titles. Some experienced breeders have valid reasons for breeding untitled dogs (occasionally). Breeders who NEVER title their dogs, though, are another matter entirely- to me personally, it says they don't want to invest the time or money and don't know their dogs as well as someone who has been through the paces with them. Of course, then you get into folks who import already titled dogs, etc.... so it's kind of a rabbit hole.
It's not a deal breaker, I'd just want to know why.
|08-04-2014 09:30 PM|
|wolfmanusf||If there is the possibility of working the dog at some point, I would not buy from untitled parents that I did not know. Just my .02|
|08-04-2014 09:17 PM|
I have purchased dogs from titled parents, dogs from non titled parents, and rescues.
It would depend on a couple things for me, health testing being a biggy, what health testing has the parents had? For me, it would also depend on the dogs involved and behind them..
Can you pm a pedigree/website? I'm not an expert, but can give you my opinion.
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