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07-12-2014 01:24 AM
KaiserandStella
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Originally Posted by Pattyobrien3 View Post
I agree that there is usually body language that precedes a fight, though not by much.

But in this particular case, I was watching him play with a dog, and the other one ran into my field of vision and just tackled mine. It was odd - part of the reason I'm looking into defense options.
There is always body language. It's just sometimes very subtle so people don't catch it or are not looking to see it. That dog came in aggressively. That leaves you with two options: Leave or stay on guard and defend your puppy. Staying really close to your puppy and watching the other dog very intently/calmly. This way, as soon as you see the intention change, you are close enough and ready to intercept. This has worked out well for me or I guess I've been lucky that my own dogs have never been attacked going to dog parks (nearly 5 years for my older dog) but I have helped other park goers break up fights with their dogs and have had to break up fights outside of the dog park. They are not the only places with that risk. It's everywhere.
07-11-2014 10:09 PM
Baillif
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Originally Posted by Pattyobrien3 View Post
I agree that there is usually body language that precedes a fight, though not by much.

But in this particular case, I was watching him play with a dog, and the other one ran into my field of vision and just tackled mine. It was odd - part of the reason I'm looking into defense options.
How old is your dog?

What might have happened is that dog had a relationship with the one your dog was playing with and he saw a dog being a danger to his buddy and came in to cream him. Especially when he already saw your dog as a target from the get go.

The nervier reactive ones will a lot of times go for a sucker punch from behind and that's really the worst kind of crap to make a dog dog aggressive because they're just minding their own business when they get sucker punched from behind out of nowhere for seemingly no reason.

It's tough to find good random dog socialization places. It's done here because we have referees going after the misbehaving ones and even edgy dogs once they figure out that we don't take their crap learn to make friends play nice and usually socialize and get over their issues.

Do it somewhere where a trainer or two isn't making sure people get trained right and aren't busy looking at Facebook on their iPhones and you could be sending your dog off to become a dog aggressive hoodlum. They can turn into little cliquey gang banger thugs if you just let them do their own thing without intervention. If you had a stable group eventually they settle things on their own and an order is created but take a dog out or add new ones in like what happens at a daycare or dog park and that order never gets established and you've got a constantly varying recipe for a dog fight.
07-11-2014 09:19 PM
Msmaria
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Originally Posted by Baillif View Post
Heres an idea...

Next time you see an aggressive dog at a dog park thats already taken active hostile interest in your dog don't go in..
I agree with above. Like u I take my dog to the dog park. Maybe 1 a week. If I see a dog there that I have seen act aggressive to another dog we dont go in. I take him for a walk instead and we can play later or come back another day. Even if your puppy is not physically hurt he can become dog aggressive from being attacked. Since I am already scared of my dog becoming aggressive I dont want to push it.
07-11-2014 05:13 PM
llombardo I've been going to one I just found that has a lake for them to swim. I'm not there for my dogs to make friends, just the exercise. My oldest golden was attacked when he was a puppy, so I'm very careful and watch everything. So far I've brought both my goldens and today I brought Robyn, my female GSD. There was 4 other dogs there. Before I went by the water I stayed in the dry area and watched all interactions through the fence. After 10 minutes we went in and she spent an hour swimming. She did play with the other dogs very well, the other owners watched like me. Some people brought in a small yapping dog, but Robyn obeyed very nicely and didn't bother with that dog. Robyn's temperament was praised highly by the others. Then another shepherd that is a resource guarded showed up. I've seen this dog before, so I know she is bad news. We left, I did not want my dog near that dog. Others left too because of this dog, she just doesn't belong there. It's important to have a strong recall and to watch how they interact with each other, if there is anything that looks like trouble get out of there and watch for that dog in the future.
07-11-2014 04:07 PM
misslesleedavis1
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Originally Posted by Athena'sMom View Post
My dogs are obedient, and friendly with other dogs but I always AVOID dog parks!!! One aggressive dog can spoil the whole experience. The worst thing that can happen is a small aggressive dog go after my big male and boom my dog seriously hurts or worse kills that dog. Then as the German shepherd owner I am liable even if my dog did not start it. German shepherd thrive on human companionship not dog companionship. My dogs are happiest when I spend quality time with them. Teach strong recall and find a big open field and have a blast!
There is a litttle dog that makes his way past my house usually at 6 ish, every time i am outside with my guys the little dog tries to pull as hard as he can towards ty, barking and growling and the owners laugh and say things like "ohh look at my little touch guy! you taking on the big mean doggy!!" ty, shiggs and dex just ignore the crap show but this has happened a few times so its unfortunate that i am having to change my routine now.
07-11-2014 03:53 PM
Athena'sMom My dogs are obedient, and friendly with other dogs but I always AVOID dog parks!!! One aggressive dog can spoil the whole experience. The worst thing that can happen is a small aggressive dog go after my big male and boom my dog seriously hurts or worse kills that dog. Then as the German shepherd owner I am liable even if my dog did not start it. German shepherd thrive on human companionship not dog companionship. My dogs are happiest when I spend quality time with them. Teach strong recall and find a big open field and have a blast!
07-11-2014 03:14 PM
wyoung2153 OP-How about a long lead at a park or a local school since it's summer? We have a school down the road and it has football fields, baseball fields and soccer fields. Titan is good off lead and there aren't usually people there so we go there often to let loose.

Do you have friendsd with dogs that you can invite over for puppy play dates? Maybe create a kind of rotating schedule at different places and parks.

ALSO, understand the territory you stepped into with this subject... try not to take offense with people's accusations or opinons. The "dog park" topic is a hot one here and will stir up a lot.

The ONLY part I think you could have done differently is not go in when you saw the aggressive dog.. go with your gut instinct every time.. if you walk up and it doesn't feeel right, you don't like what other dogs are doing then leave and come back.
07-11-2014 03:01 PM
Steve Strom
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Originally Posted by Ace GSD View Post
I'd suggest you and every other dog owner here to watch this video !! It is very clear how to break up dog fight explained in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iiVJeqzMZ8
Would you actually have to throw the Bichon into the middle of it? Or could you just kinda shake him off to the side? Like that whole re-direct thing?
07-11-2014 02:53 PM
Lilie
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Originally Posted by Pattyobrien3 View Post
I don't appreciate being blamed for having my dog attacked.
OP - At this point do you kinda feel like a pup in a dog park full of aggressive dogs?
07-11-2014 02:53 PM
Ace GSD
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Originally Posted by KaiserandStella View Post
Prevention is indeed better than having to stop an attack/fight but if you find yourself in that position at the dog park or on walks:

Kicking - may be effective in the belly/groin area but blunt force can and will make some dogs attack more aggressively. Poking at the eyes is another choice.

Mace - there may be collateral damage but if you feel it's worth it, use it.

The wheel barrel method - May not be very effective with serious fights. If the dog(s) are really going at it they may not let go and the pulling can cause tearing. Doesn't stop a dog from shaking and they can slip/kick away easily. Redirecting on you is possible.

Collar method - A lot of dogs will let go if you grab them from behind by the collar while pulling up (and twisting it) till their front paws are off the ground and they are barely standing on their back feet. Helps to stop shaking. Also a danger of getting re-directed on.

If all else fails and you don't want to seriously injure the dog, choke it out with your arms.

Worst things you can do are yell frantically, do nothing in a panic, put your hands in their mouths, and pull.

LOL this ^
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