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07-08-2014 03:58 PM
gsdsar Talk to your vet about referral to a dermatologist or starting Apoquel. Apoquel is a nonsteroidal anti itch. We have had amazing success with it, but it's very hard to get. A veterinary dermatologist will have a better chance of having it.


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07-08-2014 03:54 PM
TigervTeMar my guy gets some rashes too if he lies in mud or runs into filthy water. about 2 months ago I went to the vet and they gave me a shampoo that says 4% chlorhexidine and broad spectrum antibacterial shampoo. If he starts breaking out I do his belly/groin area thoroughly with it and let it sit 10 min (like the vet said) before washing off. I also use a plain 'natural shampoo' for regular baths all over his body except head. his skin is way, way better than it was a few months ago. sorry your pal is going through this
07-08-2014 03:53 PM
Jax08
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Originally Posted by josh995 View Post

We used to live in the desert of California. Then we moved to Virginia, near DC....2 years ago. This is when this whole thing started happening. ....

Her itching seems to have picked up big time lately, which coincides with summer just starting.

Given this information, I would have her tested for pollens, trees, grasses and other environmental allergens. Food allergies are actually not all that common.
07-08-2014 03:13 PM
Momto2GSDs I think the NutriScan Testing, By Dr. Dodds that you can do at home, would be more beneficial if this is food related.

Knowledge Center: NutriScan Knowledge Center for Pet Caregivers

NutriScan tests for the twenty-four most commonly ingested foods by dogs and cats to provide you with specific results as to your companion animal's food intolerances or sensitivities. Since it is a salivary test, you have the convenience to complete the test at home or at your veterinarian’s office. Best of all, you can have the results in approximately two weeks to help you put your pet on the right diet. NutriScan tests for:
Beef Corn Wheat Soy Cow's Milk Lamb Venison/Deer Chicken Turkey White Fish Pork Duck Chicken Eggs Barley Millet Oatmeal Salmon Rabbit Rice Quinoa Potato Lentil Sweet Potato Peanut/Peanut Butter

Please remember, NutriScan is novel and patented and is not testing for food allergies, but rather tests for food sensitivities and intolerance. These are different body immune responses. Food allergy is a more immediate reaction mediated by production of IgE and IgG antibodies. Food sensitivity and intolerance, by contrast, measures a more delayed body response to offending foods by measuring production of IgA and IgM antibodies primarily in mucosal secretions from the bowel.

Moms
07-08-2014 03:04 PM
WVGSD I would also recommend looking in to Dr. Dodd's Nutriscan testing and see what results you get. I have heard only good things about her testing system. Her website is also very informative.
07-08-2014 02:51 PM
josh995
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Originally Posted by sehrgutcsg View Post
Sorry, the water is taking all the oil out of the skin and coat. Dry dock that dog and get some professional help..

SGCSG
She hasn't been in the water in several months and she sees the vet nearly every month.

Thanks everyone for your answers. I will schedule an appointment for allergy testing. I had asked my vet about that but they said it didn't need to be done. They did swabs for yeast and another thing, I can't remember, and she didn't have anything they could see, according to them. Ugh I hate this I just want her to feel better.
07-08-2014 01:01 PM
Momto2GSDs
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Originally Posted by Sunflowers View Post
I did try Seacure...what a nightmare.


Then I found out that Hans is very sensitive to whitefish!


I think it is well worth it to send a saliva sample to California, so you know what to avoid. Ever since I did this, we have had no more food problems.

NutriScan Food Sensitivity and Intolerance Test for Cats and Dogs
Holy COW! SeaCure WOULD make it worse when a dog has a fish sensitivity! So sorry you & Hans went thru that!

You are totally right Sunflowers! Dr. Dodds NutriScan just may be the ticket for this poor baby!

Moms
07-08-2014 12:35 PM
my boy diesel her skin has become chronically yeasty from the sounds of it
yeast has a distinctive odor on the skin and so does bacteria
what happens is the skin gets irritated so pumps out extra oil
that traps and feeds yeast on the body and is itchy so they scratch or bite
that becomes infected

it is not necessary to go raw to help her
i would actually suggest a unique protein such as duck or venison or bison
natural balance is good for this use as it has only one protein source whichever you use

you have to get and keep her skin dry
if it is damp or moist this will contribute to the yeast infection
apple cider vinegar ca be added to her food perhaps a tbs per day
i have also had good luck with my itchy pup using topical malacetic otic which is for ears or skin

your main goal is to properly acidify the skin so the acid base balance returns
07-08-2014 12:24 PM
Sunflowers I did try Seacure...what a nightmare.


Then I found out that Hans is very sensitive to whitefish!


I think it is well worth it to send a saliva sample to California, so you know what to avoid. Ever since I did this, we have had no more food problems.

NutriScan Food Sensitivity and Intolerance Test for Cats and Dogs


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Originally Posted by Momto2GSDs View Post
Best advice I could suggest is to go totally raw and do not allow her to eat anything else including "store bought" items or food falling from your table. You can make your own easy one ingredient treats (let me know if you want the recipe).

Commercially prepared LIMITED ingredients would be the way to go if you cannot prepare raw balanced meals yourself. Something like Bravo Beef: Bravo! Balance
Ingredients:
Beef, beef organs (livers, hearts, kidneys), beef bone, celery, acorn squash, turnip, sunflower oil, salt, potassium chloride, vitamin E, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganous oxide, potassium iodide, vitamin D.

If you decide to do this, read the ingredients carefully, making sure that the raw food you choose does not contain any Chicken, Eggs, or Flax Oil/Flax Seed.

Another great supplement item for dogs with allergies is called SeaVive. I know of several dogs that it has helped.
The following info is a QUOTE:
SeaVive Information:
(SeaVive is a combination of SeaCURE, Colostrum, Beta Glucan, and Vitamin C)
IMMUNE SYSTEM MISSION: Prevent disease and infection
“Mucous membranes that line body cavities open to the environment, such as those found in the nose and gut, house antibodies called immunoglobulins that ensnare pathogens and potential antigens encountered in daily life. Thus, mucous membranes function as the first step in the mission of the immune system to prevent disease and infection.
Toxic invaders that sneak by the mucosal barrier are met by white blood cells called macrophages, which by a process called phagocytosis literally digest and destroy invaders in the blood. Thus, macrophages become the body's inside line of defense responsible for seeking and indiscriminately destroying viruses, parasites, fungi, and bacteria.
Two new supplements aid and assist these defenses against disease and infection. They are Colostrum, which supplies critical immunoglobulins to block invaders at the level of the mucosal barrier, and Beta glucan, which stimulates the action of the macrophages to phagocytize invaders in the blood stream. A third supplement Seacure® aids the immune system indirectly by correcting pathogenic bowel permeability to prevent hazards from passing through the gut membrane to infect internal organs. Finally, Vitamin C is well recognized for its immune-supportive properties. All four of these components are combined to produce the one-of-a-kind immune-booster ... SeaVive®. About SeaVive

“SeaVire® is a 100% natural, pre-digested fish protein concentrate combined with Colostrum 80/40 which is critical for good immune function. This combination is the only product on the market like it in the world. It is now available in the nutraceutical industry today. SeaVive® naturally contains a total of 18 amino acids including the 11 essential amino acids. Essential amino acids are amino acids that cannot be synthesized by the dog/cat's body and must be supplied to the body in their daily diet. But when a system is compromised due to disease or a debilitating condition SeaVive is the ideal supplement because of the benefits of a quickly absorbed and fully assimilated protein source- one of which is fast repair and recovery from illness, surgery, and wound healing.”

“Because SeaVive® is already pre-digested it is 100% usable by the body, and it does not require effort on the part of the dog's digestive system to process the protein. This makes it readily available for nourishment, boosting immune function and accelerated healing. This product is perfect for fading puppy syndrome, the systemic yeast removal detoxification process, dog's whose systems are depleted from IBD, IBS, Coccidia and Giardia. It is a terrific supplement for dog's with allergies due to its immune boosting properties and an answer to nourishment for the stages of early renal failure because it's a protein the body does not have to process, so it is usable and not hard on the compromised kidneys.”

“During the manufacturing process of SeaVive they employ a proprietary technology that permits them to, naturally, breakdown the fresh raw material, Pacific Whiting (a member of the Cod family) making SeaVive
almost 100% absorbable and assimilated by the body.”

“Due to this technological process, the body does not have to further digest SeaVive® which makes it very easy on the body, permitting the naturally occurring minerals, nutrients, amino acids and peptides of the fish to be utilized immediately assisting the body with the natural healing process.”
Some Examples of Use:
Detoxification During Yeast Removal
Boosting Immune Function
Allergies
IBD and IBS
Digestive Issues
Malabsorption Issues
Giardia
Coccidia
Parasites
Malnutrition
Rescue & Repair
Lactating Bitches
Fading Puppy Syndrome
Wound Healing - Topically
Repair After Surgery
Wound Healing - Internally
HOD (when off feed)
Nourishment Post Surgery
Renal Failure




About SeaVive
Or here: SeaVive 90 Capsules by Proper Nutrition


Good luck!

Moms
07-08-2014 12:12 PM
sehrgutcsg Sorry, the water is taking all the oil out of the skin and coat. Dry dock that dog and get some professional help..

SGCSG
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