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08-13-2014 04:45 PM
wyominggrandma I know of a mother who got a mixed dog from the pound, did really no training on it, got a vest for it off ebay and then gave it to her daughter because of her problem of being social around people saying it was a therapy dog. The daughter would take the dog into all the stores in this small town and stand in the aisles talking, while the dog peed and pooped every time it went into the stores. She refused to clean up after it and just said" call the cops, I don't care, my mom will sue you". The store owners let her get away with it, small town, everyone knows everyone and didn't want problems. This girl no more needed a therapy or service dog, but she attracted attention and that is what she wanted.
I had another lady stop me at the store, wanting the vet to give her Maltese a note saying it was her service dog for asthma so she could take it anywhere. Told me she was told by the breeder who bred these Maltese to be service dogs for asthma because they had a small hole in their skulls that when they started to get an attack, they just pressed the chest and a special powder substance came out that would help stop the attack. Now I am not kidding, she was totally serious. Had to explain that there was no hole in the dogs head, that there would not be a "powder" coming out of the dogs head to help her asthma attack and that the vet could not do that.
I had a hard time not laughing while I was trying to be professional, went back to work and we all had a laugh about it. Felt sorry for the woman actually falling for the breeders story and big price for special therapy/service dogs.
I am sorry, but can you picture a person squeezing this poor dogs rib cage and sniffing its head to get the special powder to come out?
I also had a worker get a note from her Dr to give to the landlord to say she had to have a service dog for her well being. Trailer park was a no pet policy, but she got to get a dog. Has since married and now they have two dogs. This person no more needed a service dog, she had no issues. Total fake to keep her dog.
I think folks that want to fake needing a service dog/therapy dog so their dog can go everywhere with them is unethical, but its so easy to get service vests online anymore. How sad.
08-12-2014 03:14 AM
kburrow11
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Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
As we were walking out I heard people saying, "holy s... that's a huge dog, I didn't even know he was in here this whole time."

And that's how a service dog should be. People shouldn't know that he was ever there. The service dog should be silent (unless it's part of his service to "speak" to you) and just an extension of you that largely goes unnoticed.
^^^THIS^^^

I've got Vida, who's a week shy of 6 months old who's in training as a service dog. 2 weeks into her training (8 weeks old at that time) I had her in my college classes with me. By that time she was already so accustomed to what the vest meant in terms of her working and not being free to play, that for 3 days, two of my professors didn't even know she was in class, and I sit in the second row. That's how quiet she was. And that's at 8 weeks old. Imagine how much the training has to progress in the 18-24 months service dogs are in training before they're considered fully trained.
08-05-2014 11:35 AM
glowingtoadfly I just let her know! Hopefully she realizes.
08-05-2014 11:16 AM
ILGHAUS
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Originally Posted by glowingtoadfly View Post
I' m still working on her, thank you! I don't think that the store she went to understood the law, because she claimed her dog as a therapy dog and they have no legal rights. ( He is not a certified therapy dog either ) I don't think she has no conscience, I just think she doesn't understand how serious it is.
Just for your info on Therapy Dogs -- most organizations "register" their graduates while only a very few "certify". The difference is the level of legal responsibility that is taken on by the organization.

For those who need a definition for their own understanding or to help inform someone else:

In the U.S. --
Therapy Dogs are legally classed as pets.
The owner and dog work as a team to visit others to bring happiness or to in some cases help a medical caregiver in a treatment plan.
The owner may or may not be disabled.
The owner does not have any rights to take the dog anywhere that is not pet friendly or where the dog has been invited to visit.

In the U.S. --
Service Dogs are classified as medical equipment per the Dept. of Justice (DOJ) and the IRS.
The owner handler is legally disabled per the DOJ.
The dog has been individually trained to mitigate the handler's disability per the DOJ.
The handler for whom the dog was trained, does have Public Access Rights to take the dog almost anywhere where the handler is legally allowed to go per the DOJ.

People who claim their dog as a Service Dog when all qualifications are not met:
1) Are in violation of Federal Regulatory Law -- under the Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division.
2) In some states, people who claim their dogs as an Assistance / Service dog when all qualifications are not met may be in violation of their State's Statutes, Criminal Law and may be fined and/or sentenced to serving some time in jail.

In regards to Federal or State Laws: whichever gives the handler the greatest benefit or protection is the law which takes precedence.
08-04-2014 11:51 PM
Chip18 I just saw this today and yeah....I "don't" have a service dog and I think, doing something like that places someone on the same low level as scum that park in a handicapped zone and aren't disabled!
08-04-2014 10:58 PM
Tratkins
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Originally Posted by Zimom View Post
Just found this thread.. I realize it is a month old. As my daughter has a service dog, fake service dogs are a hot button issue for me.

For the list and for your mom: My daughter, a pre-teen, is asked about her visible disability every single day of her life. Every day. One of the things her service dog does for her is to take the attention away from her disability, which can be good and bad. Kids see the dog and not her disability. However, she will still be stopped in stores and questioned about her dog even though she has her vest on, is the most well-behaved dog, etc etc. We have been told more then once it is because they have had poorly behaved dogs in their stores/restaurants. Every fake service dog makes it harder for us. We just want to go about our business and be left alone.
Yes! We were in San Diego this weekend which is a very dog friendly place. However, there are certain beaches and other places that dogs are not allowed. Unfortunately, we saw several dogs in forbidden places (one was the zoo) with service vests on and the dogs were barking and reacting to everything around them. One little poodle was barking so much and didn't even have a clue what was going on with its owner...not what comes to mind when I think of a trained service dog. I would have loved to have had my dog there too..but I pay to board him when I go places he is not allowed.

I am sorry others make it more difficult for your daughter.
08-04-2014 10:46 PM
glowingtoadfly I' m still working on her, thank you! I don't think that the store she went to understood the law, because she claimed her dog as a therapy dog and they have no legal rights. ( He is not a certified therapy dog either ) I don't think she has no conscience, I just think she doesn't understand how serious it is.
08-04-2014 10:40 PM
MichaelE Only dirtbags without a conscience would pass a dog off as a Service Dog.
08-04-2014 10:12 PM
Zimom
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Originally Posted by glowingtoadfly View Post
This thread is actually provoking quite an interesting conversation with my mother. I think she is starting to understand why she should not have claimed her dog as an SD.
Just found this thread.. I realize it is a month old. As my daughter has a service dog, fake service dogs are a hot button issue for me.

For the list and for your mom: My daughter, a pre-teen, is asked about her visible disability every single day of her life. Every day. One of the things her service dog does for her is to take the attention away from her disability, which can be good and bad. Kids see the dog and not her disability. However, she will still be stopped in stores and questioned about her dog even though she has her vest on, is the most well-behaved dog, etc etc. We have been told more then once it is because they have had poorly behaved dogs in their stores/restaurants. Every fake service dog makes it harder for us. We just want to go about our business and be left alone.
07-09-2014 10:25 AM
SuperG
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Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
110 MPG??? I wish my truck were as efficient as that slapshot!

LOL....yep..Bobby Hull was efficient...

Good catch....thanks.

SuperG
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