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Yesterday 12:05 AM
Chip18 Two dogs are not idea! It can be done but there is a lot to look out for! The most obvious is one on one training. If you always train them together they can/will look to each other for cues!

If they have to go somewhere and they are not together you can easily get an unexpected behaviour or command break! Because one dog never knew the command he was just following his sibling!

It wasn't your plan but this is stuff you should know about your situation:

Leerburg | Raising Two Pups at a Time: Why It's a Bad Idea

And lots of links here post 8 and post 30:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...lenging-3.html

It can be done but not recommend or easy.You could always contact a breed rescue and tell them you can foster in place..just a thought.
07-23-2014 11:41 PM
Stanlong Thank you for your responses. I actually got the boys from a friend of mine, not a breeder, who was looking for new homes for the litter. They are actually brothers from the same litter and have been with each other from birth. I am not quite sure how they were being handled before in terms of abuse, but the way they react would lead me to believe that they are truly terrified of humans. My friend lives in the city, but had the dogs at another home in the rural area and they were being attended to by the care taker of the home. My friend is truly an animal lover and I am sure he would never abuse them, but I don't really now anything about the care taker. I do have one other pet, a Shih Tzu, but he lives in the house and hasn't yet been introduced to the GSD's. I wanted to get them comfortable first before making the introduction, but did not anticipate them taking a week to settle down.

You're right, returning one or both is certainly not something I wanted to hear and I really can't see myself doing that. There must be something else that can be done to make them feel safe and comfortable in their new home. While they do not eat together, they do have free run of the yard and spend the day interacting with each other.
07-22-2014 11:44 PM
selzer
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Good evening all. I am the recent owner of two 4 month old male GSD's. I got received them just short of a week ago and since bringing them to their new home, they have been very scared of me and my family. I am hopeful that they will get accustomed to us soon but after close to a week, they run and hide at the sight of us. Is there anything special I should be doing to get them accustomed to us?? Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks.
Did a breeder sell you two four month old puppies?

It sounds like the two of them are completely unsocialized. And, in this case two is a mistake. With two of them, they can rely on each other for companionship. A single puppy would have to come to the family, because dogs are pack animals, and they don't like being lonely. So what is happening here is that the dogs seem to have had limited contact with humans, and have each other, and now are not wanting anything to do with you.

Also, there is the possibility if you leave the boys together much longer, that they will become fused together. Meaning that if you try to separate them down the line -- one gets sick and needs to be kept at the vet-clinic, the other will panic. One dies, the other gets terribly depressed and perhaps passes as well.

I think your best course of action would be to return one or both of these boys, if you got them from a breeder. I think the breeder did not do right by you for selling them thus.

4 month old puppies are fine to get from a breeder, don't get me wrong, but they need to have done their part. They need to have exposed them to a variety of people, sights, sounds, etc. And, selling you two of them, well, it is not always a mistake to raise two puppies, but it can be a big mistake.

If you want to keep one or both of these boys, you are not going to like what I am going to suggest. Separate them. Totally. They are way too dependent on the other, and you are likely to have some real trouble down the line. Maybe you can let them play for 10-15 minutes together in the yard each day, maybe more. But they shouldn't be eating together, sleeping together, free access to one another all along.

Sorry, I can't say what you want to hear. But I really don't think this situation is going to just solve itself with time.
07-22-2014 11:27 PM
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Whenever my gsd is afraid of something I dont let him run from it. So in your case just bring them next to you and make them lay there until you release them. Dont look at them but just praise when there laying there calm and relaxing. increase the time if they want to keep moving at first. A leash might be neccesary to make sure they stay by you.
07-22-2014 11:24 PM
PopeJP Stanlong,

Is there any other pertinent background information i.e. did they come from an abusive situation, are the dogs familiar with each other, are there any other dogs in your household etc.
07-22-2014 10:03 PM
Stanlong Good evening all. I am the recent owner of two 4 month old male GSD's. I got received them just short of a week ago and since bringing them to their new home, they have been very scared of me and my family. I am hopeful that they will get accustomed to us soon but after close to a week, they run and hide at the sight of us. Is there anything special I should be doing to get them accustomed to us?? Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks.
07-06-2014 11:05 PM
bruces dad Sorry hit send on accident I finished my novel a

As already stated some very great advice. I have a 17 month old gsd with a very huge drive like most german shepherds and herding dogs. I dont know if anyone likes ceaser milan but my mom actually gave me a dvd and I watched when my gsd BRUCE was only 2 months old. My mom never watched them and I honestly thought when I seen title that he talked to dogs. Hahaha. Still get a laugh out of that. It was a lifesaver. The biggest things I took out of his show is 1st, dogs live in the now. So if u wake up tommorrow and become calm and assertive, and I mean no tense body movements or with ur voice, and even though your dog will be wary at first, when he sees youve brought down ur frustration and tense reactions, which im sure you will catch yourself doing, he will become a very calm dog that listens under any distractions. You will really click with your dog and you guys become something special, dont even know what to call it, but when I did it with bruce it has become so much more fun and enjoyable for everything. What really made it happen was the 2nd thing you can work on with him. Eye contact. Its what really connects you to your dog in my opinion. If you can get your dogs eyes on you whenever you ask your gonna have a very good dog under any circumstance. I got a little creative because bruce is very stubborn and has a great drive like I previously mentioned. I bought pvc electrical piping for underground burial of lines and put in ground as weeve poles made some tunnels out of hula hoops and a tarp, some jumps out of pvc, and last a A ramp out of wood. I have tiny yard with pool taking up alot of room, so this makes it fun for him and most importantly teaches him to watch me for which one to do next. It stimulates his mind, practices eye contact, and teaches him to listen to you. Now that its gotten routine ive brought in friends dogs for distractions and extended the type of games we play out in public places under 100 foot leash in case he chooses to give in to distractions. Still has alot of work as hes still a pup but im so happy got him goin in right direction to being a great gsd under any circumstamces so he can go almost everywhere my family and I do.
3rd like already mentioned, get him In the water. With the joint problems they have its great exercise and burns alot of that puppy energy. Since ive opened my pool Bruce has been rushing us to bed. He gives noises when we stay up later and plops down bedside before im in the bed. Haaha. Thats been the key, along with walks to practice mind stimaltion and controlling his excitement. Its tough but def worth it to have the kind of bond we have. Ill be watching the thread,learning from other advice, and talking to you guys in future. Hope this helps
07-06-2014 10:49 PM
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As already stated some very great advice. I have a 17 month old gsd with a very huge drive like most german shepherds and herding dogs. I dont know if anyone likes ceaser milan but my mom actually gave me a dvd and I watched when my gsd BRUCE was only 2 months old. My mom never watched them and I honestly thought when I seen title that he talked to dogs. Hahaha. Still get a laugh out of that. It was a lifesaver. The biggest things I took out of his show is 1st, dogs live in the now. So if u wake up tommorrow and become calm and assertive, and I mean no tense body movements or with ur voice, and even though your dog will be wary at first, when he sees youve brought down ur frustration and tense reactions, which im sure you will catch yourself doing, he will become a very calm dog that listens under any distractions. You will really click with your dog and you guys become something special, dont even know what to call it, but when I did it with bruce it has become so much more fun and enjoyable for everything. What really made it happen was the 2nd thing you can work on with him. Eye contact. Ots what really connects you to your dog in my opinion. If you can get your dogs eyes on you whenever you ask your gonna have a very good dog under any circumstance. I got a little creative because bruce is very stubborn and has a great drive like I previously mentioned. I bought pvc electrical piping for underground burial of lines and put in ground as weeve poles made some tunnels out of hula hoops and a tarp, some jumps out of pvc, and last a A ramp out of wood. I have tiny yard with pool taking up alot of room, so this makes it fun for him and most importantly teaches him to watch me for which one to do next. It stimulates his kind, practices eye contact, and teaches him to obey you. Now that its gotten routine ive brought in friends dogs for distractions and extended the type of games we play out in public places under 100 foot leash in case he chooses to give in to distractions. Still has alot of work as hes still a pup but im so happy got him goin in right direction to being a great gsd under any circumstamces so he can go almost everywhere my family and I do.
07-06-2014 10:13 PM
PopeJP Thanks for the advice gang. Looks like I have some work to do for sure.
07-06-2014 10:06 PM
gsdsar Definitely get him into another class. One on one is great, but none of it makes a difference if you are not working on it at home. 10 minutes 3x a day, will make a world if difference.

Mind work will tire them out quicker than walking. Engage their mind!!! Does he have a favorite toy? Hold him while a family member hides it, let him find it. Make the hides harder and harder.

Take his dinner, throw it in the yard, make him search for it. Get creative. Join a Nose Works, barn hunt, agility, fly ball class. GSD need more than once a week engagement in a structured class. It needs to become a way of life.


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