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Today 02:17 PM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by llombardo View Post
Was it after he started getting chicken?
This may be confusing, but the diarrhea started 2-3 weeks AFTER the pool, and about 3-4 days AFTER the chicken. But keep in mind that the kibble he is on has Chicken as the first, and second ingredient.
Today 01:57 PM
carmspack why does kibble need food colour " Caramel" which is questionable Caramel coloring chemical linked to cancer found in sodas - CBS News

http://truthaboutpetfood.com/coke-pepsi-and-pet-food/
Today 01:51 PM
llombardo
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Originally Posted by woogyboogy View Post
It is a possibility, however the period where he swam in the pool and his first start of diarrhea episodes weren't close together. He started having diarrhea several weeks after the pool? Not sure if that matters?
Was it after he started getting chicken?
Today 01:11 PM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by Springbrz View Post
Actually, that dog was not on any medication at the time. However she does have many food sensitivities and a very sensitive gut and wasn't eating well before hand.

Chlorinated pool water could be upsetting Loki's tummy (unless you have a saltwater pool). As I believe posted here he has been swimming in a pool rather than open water since he acquired Pythium. His system has been through so much and he has been on many medications.

As well discussed throughout this thread. Gut health is very important. Maybe keeping Loki from swimming in any water for a good bit might be advisable. Just a thought to consider.

Sending healing thoughts for Loki.
The pool was chlorinated, and I guess it could be a possibility, but he didn't start having diarrhea until several weeks after he swam in the pool?

He won't be swimming in any water for a while now, after this episode.

Thank you for the input and support!
Today 01:09 PM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
quote "An ileus can also be caused by severe gastritis or a physical blockage. In our case it is believed to be from chlorinated pool water. "
from http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...-needed-2.html

this dog was in a chlorinated pool -- may have ingested a good volume of water at a point when the digestive system was already upset by the anti biotics and other medication -
It is a possibility, however the period where he swam in the pool and his first start of diarrhea episodes weren't close together. He started having diarrhea several weeks after the pool? Not sure if that matters?
Today 01:08 PM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by BowWowMeow View Post
I use that Perfect Form for Rafi too. Rafi can't have any kibble but does great on raw and best on chicken!

What about Nature's Variety rabbit kibble?

Personally, I would be home cooking until this gets figured out. You could also take out rice and substitute sweet potatoes or quinoa.
I'm not sure how I feel about feeding Loki Rabbit kibble, and I'm still trying to decide whether to feed home cooked or a new kibble...very confusing.
Today 12:56 PM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
woogy did the dog have diarrhea with chicken before all this drama?
Yes, I'm 100% positive he had diarrhea before the boiled chicken. However his current Kibble is Blue Buffalo Large Breed Adult, which he has been on since 8 weeks old. The first 2 ingredients are Chicken...

"Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Oatmeal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Peas, Whole Ground Barley, Tomato Pomace (source of Lycopene), Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Natural Chicken Flavor, Whole Potatoes, Flaxseed (source of Omega 3 and 6 Fatty Acids), Sunflower Oil (source of Omega 6 Fatty Acids), Whole Carrots, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Blueberries, Cranberries, Apples, Blackberries, Pomegranate, Spinach, Pumpkin, Barley Grass, Dried Parsley, Garlic, Alfalfa Meal, Dried Kelp, Yucca Schidigera Extract, L-Carnitine, L-Lysine, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Turmeric, Dried Chicory Root, Oil of Rosemary, Beta Carotene, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Vitamin A Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Niacin (Vitamin B3), d-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Biotin (Vitamin B7), Folic Acid (Vitamin B9), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Choline Chloride, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Iodate, Salt, Caramel, Potassium Chloride, Dried Yeast (source of Saccharomyces cerevisiae), Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, Dried Bacillus subtilis fermentation product, Dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product "

Thanks Carmen!
Today 12:54 PM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by GSDLoverII View Post
Chicken gave one of my dogs the runs too.
I use this product whenever my dogs have soft stools.
2 teaspoons each meal, mixed with canned, mixed with kibble. Works fantastic.
Good luck!
Perfect Form Digestive Supplement | The Honest Kitchen
I will have to look into this, it isn't that expensive either...I'm shocked.

Thanks again for everything!
Today 12:05 PM
Springbrz Carmen- no apology needed. I see I misread your post.

Just glad sharing our experience may bring some incite/help to Loki and his owners.
Today 11:48 AM
carmspack sorry springbrz if there was confusion -- the "this dog" that I was referring to was Loki , who has undergone so much .

pH level of a dog’s epidermis…Never use human products on pets! Fur-Ever Loved Pet Salon

chlorine probably dried and irritated the skin . Getting stitches wet not the best idea .

pH and chlorine values swimming pool - Water quality pool

many times throughout the years on forum I have suggested non-chlorinated water , non fluoridated water for the reason that it can upset the stomach and be harsh on kidneys . http://www.bioray.com/content/Chlorine.pdf

quote
Chlorine

Chlorine is added to water to kill certain bacteria. This chemical can be inhaled in gas form and absorbed through the skin and therefore presents a danger even if you're present in the room with it, to say nothing of drinking it. Once in the human body, it bonds with other compounds to form Trihalomethanes (THMs). These byproducts trigger the production of free radicals in the body and cause serious cell damage. In one research study, chlorine and chloramine was added to rats' water supply and as a result the rats developed tumors in the liver kidneys and intestines."

A dog swimming in a chlorinated pool would be breathing in chlorine gas which quote "
While the bacteria-killing properties of chlorine are very useful, chlorine also has some side effects that can be annoying to humans, and possibly even hazardous. Chlorine has a very distinctive smell that most find unpleasant, and some find overwhelming. There is also the "itch factor" -- chlorine can cause certain skin types to become itchy and irritated. The hypochlorite ion causes many fabrics to fade quickly when not rinsed off immediately after exiting the pool. This is why your swimsuit looks faded and worn so early in the summer.
Extremely high amounts of chlorine gas hovering above your pool can be hazardous to your breathing"

from HowStuffWorks "How does chlorine work to clean swimming pools?"
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