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01-02-2016 05:22 PM
LisaT I believe that some dogs with the intestinal version may have beat it with the vaccine therapy, which I a completely different direction than Grooters takes. BUT I suspect that in most cases, the intestinal version is found too late. This organism is much nastier than a fungus it seems...

I agree, it's always a mystery why some get sick, and others don't. Some are more deficient than others
01-02-2016 05:15 PM
Magwart One thing that the article doesn't mention is that there's a different form than skin lesions: this fungus also can attack the intestines. That version of the disease is almost always fatal unless you are very lucky and have it land in a part of the intestine that can be fully removed...which is rare.

I had a talk with our rescue's vet about one we had die of a pythium infection in his intestine last year (Louisiana). He was young (a year old), healthy, active, and caught the infection long after adoption--where he'd had good care. He had gone to swim a lot in a local park that has swimming pond for dogs. I think that's probably where he got it.

He came from a litter of 7 born in a public shelter, then raised in a foster home and adopted out around 12 weeks. All were healthy and happy puppies--no problems at all, despite the shelter birth. He died of pythium in the intestine at 12 months. The other 6 have remained healthy, as has mom.

By the time he showed symptoms (vomiting occasionally), a part of his duodenum was already black and dead. Worse, this fungus likes to find inoperable places in the intestines, making treatment impossible. We had an inconclusive ultra-sound for a suspected blockage, so the vet went in to do exploratory surgery...and that's how she found the pythium in the intestine. He had to be euthanized on the table.

The vet told me this fungus is common in the environment in our area. It's not rare at all. If you test any pond, you'll find it. What isn't known is why one dog that swims in a pond will get it while playing and swimming, but 100 other other dogs won't. It's very mysterious. Maybe he swam too soon after his monthly HW prevention or vaccination, maybe he had a hidden genetic variation that made him susceptible, maybe he just drank a lot of that pond water after a storm. Our vet studied with Dr. Grooters at LSU, one of the experts on this awful disease, and there just aren't any answers as to why some dogs get it internally, and others don't.
01-02-2016 04:46 PM
carmspack there are many things now that are crazy and scary -- co-infections -- the basic "answer" will be to keep the immune system optimized which was part of this dogs recovery - two pronged attack , anti-parasitic and immune
01-02-2016 04:31 PM
llombardo
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Just a heads up in case anyone knows a dog with, or has had pythiosis. One university is trying to do some data collection, that would benefit all of us, so owners of affected dogs hould participate in the survey: https://ufl.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_eaGSpixZQXAEyA5

As far as I know, Loki is still doing well and is one of the lucky ones, thank goodness!
I sure hope so, that was so scary and crazy!!
01-02-2016 04:11 PM
LisaT Just a heads up in case anyone knows a dog with, or has had pythiosis. One university is trying to do some data collection, that would benefit all of us, so owners of affected dogs hould participate in the survey: https://ufl.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_eaGSpixZQXAEyA5

As far as I know, Loki is still doing well and is one of the lucky ones, thank goodness!
01-02-2015 08:51 PM
Susan_GSD_mom
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Thanks for checking up. Loki is doing excellent. No possible signs of returning Pythium, and its been 179 days since his surgery.


Susan
01-02-2015 05:06 PM
woogyboogy
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Just wondering how Loki is doing. Hope everything is good in your world.
Thanks for checking up. Loki is doing excellent. No possible signs of returning Pythium, and its been 179 days since his surgery.
01-02-2015 09:03 AM
KentuckyFenway Just wondering how Loki is doing. Hope everything is good in your world.
11-18-2014 07:13 PM
woogyboogy
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VERY VERY glad to hear that Loki is doing well!!
Thank you so much! We are too you have no idea!
11-18-2014 07:12 PM
woogyboogy
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Thanks for sharing the article on Pythiosis. It was very interesting. Glad to read that Loki is doing better. What an experience this must of been.
Thank you so much. That article was definitely one of the more definitive ones that I had read, and I've spent so many countless hours doing research

It most definitely has been a complete roller coaster, especially for us, as he is our first dog. But it is something we can hopefully look back on in several years, and say wow...we got through all of that.

Thanks again!
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