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Today 09:05 AM
carmspack woogy did the dog have diarrhea with chicken before all this drama?
Today 08:29 AM
GSDLoverII Chicken gave one of my dogs the runs too.
I use this product whenever my dogs have soft stools.
2 teaspoons each meal, mixed with canned, mixed with kibble. Works fantastic.
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Today 08:24 AM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by Juliem24 View Post
Yes, thanks to this forum, I have learned that many GSD are sensitive to chicken. I recommended it, but did that in error (wasn't thinking, just what worked for other dogs I've owned).
Woogyboogy, the wound looks great. I am really hoping that this mess will be done soon! You're doing a great job with Loki.
I'm really starting to think that he just can't tolerate the chicken. He kibble that he has been on since we got him at 8 weeks, has contained chicken in it. So either he can't tolerate it, or hes just getting sick of it, and we need to switch things up.

Thanks again for the support, we are so relieved that the wound is healing on its own without the help of antibiotics. I guess that shows that Loki's immune system is working, and isn't completely ruined.

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Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
maybe it is the quality of the chicken?

I would say all the dogs that I have had have a diet that is 60 to 70 % chicken . frames, ground, hearts, liver, giblets,

no diarrhea --- ever -- no itching , no scratching, no gummy ears , no eyes tearing -- long lived , hassle free
You are right, it could very well be the quality of the chicken we purchased. Also, we weren't sure the best way to prepare it, so we just boiled it? Not sure if that is good or bad?

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Originally Posted by LisaT View Post
Very relieved to see that the sore isn't worse and is much better - that's a huge positive sign.

LOTS of dogs cannot tolerate chicken, mine never have, didn't help if it was organic either. Chicken is common in kibble, and probably chicken proteins in vaccines. To me, important is that he got worse when you fed the homecooked chicken (I'm assuming it was baked or something similar, not fried, etc.), which might indicate that the more pure the chicken, the more problems he had. Of course, some dogs are actually allergic/sensitive to rice, but chicken kibble, with worse on more pure chicken, just makes me wonder about the protein source. Before trying all sorts of different kibbles (if you haven't already bought a new bag to try), it would be quicker and easier to test some homeprepared beef, or some fish, and see if it's tolerated.

If the metro hasn't helped yet, it's not likely too. Generally antibiotics shoudl be finished out. With metro, *always* watch for neurotoxicity symptoms - if you see signs, 3 more pills in the script aren't worth it.

The script foods are designed to halt digestive issues, with a lot of science behind them. The science is to develop stools that owners are happy with, and not necessarily for optimal health.

As for stopping the supplements, it's up to you if you do that. Most conventional vets don't understand what most of these things do, so they prefer to stay away from them. It is true that sometimes a supplement can start causing a problem after awhile, just like any food, but I've always found when I stopped supplements because of stool issues, things didn't get better, they typically got worse (since the suppelments were well-chosen). I can't remember what he is on, but you'll have to judge which ones might be important for you to continue.
We are very happy with the positive progress of the wound!

Also, we are going to discontinue the use of the Metronidazole. Still unsure about discontinuing the vitamins?

When we decide on his diet, we are going to switch to something with NO chicken to see if that really may be the problem. We are still trying to find time to go to the store and purchase several things that we need, but we will get to it, We need more than 24 hours in a day, I swear...

Thanks again everyone for the support!!! I will give better updates later today, with pictures. His wound looks even better this morning!
Today 02:13 AM
LisaT Very relieved to see that the sore isn't worse and is much better - that's a huge positive sign.

LOTS of dogs cannot tolerate chicken, mine never have, didn't help if it was organic either. Chicken is common in kibble, and probably chicken proteins in vaccines. To me, important is that he got worse when you fed the homecooked chicken (I'm assuming it was baked or something similar, not fried, etc.), which might indicate that the more pure the chicken, the more problems he had. Of course, some dogs are actually allergic/sensitive to rice, but chicken kibble, with worse on more pure chicken, just makes me wonder about the protein source. Before trying all sorts of different kibbles (if you haven't already bought a new bag to try), it would be quicker and easier to test some homeprepared beef, or some fish, and see if it's tolerated.

If the metro hasn't helped yet, it's not likely too. Generally antibiotics shoudl be finished out. With metro, *always* watch for neurotoxicity symptoms - if you see signs, 3 more pills in the script aren't worth it.

The script foods are designed to halt digestive issues, with a lot of science behind them. The science is to develop stools that owners are happy with, and not necessarily for optimal health.

As for stopping the supplements, it's up to you if you do that. Most conventional vets don't understand what most of these things do, so they prefer to stay away from them. It is true that sometimes a supplement can start causing a problem after awhile, just like any food, but I've always found when I stopped supplements because of stool issues, things didn't get better, they typically got worse (since the suppelments were well-chosen). I can't remember what he is on, but you'll have to judge which ones might be important for you to continue.
Today 01:22 AM
carmspack maybe it is the quality of the chicken?

I would say all the dogs that I have had have a diet that is 60 to 70 % chicken . frames, ground, hearts, liver, giblets,

no diarrhea --- ever -- no itching , no scratching, no gummy ears , no eyes tearing -- long lived , hassle free
Yesterday 10:11 PM
Juliem24 Yes, thanks to this forum, I have learned that many GSD are sensitive to chicken. I recommended it, but did that in error (wasn't thinking, just what worked for other dogs I've owned).
Woogyboogy, the wound looks great. I am really hoping that this mess will be done soon! You're doing a great job with Loki.
Yesterday 09:52 PM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
that is why I recommended Orijen Regional Red Regional Red | Orijen
Thank you so much Carmen!
Yesterday 09:52 PM
woogyboogy
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Originally Posted by BowWowMeow View Post
Glad to see that the wound is healing!!!!!!

Diarrhea is actually a side effect of metro/flagyl and there have been dogs on here before who did worse on it. It is obviously NOT helping and since it is an antibiotic longterm use will just continue to destroy the good intestinal flora.

If this were my dog, I would change proteins (try lean buffalo or beef or poached salmon) and try one of the holistic remedies suggested here.
I used this in an emergency situation with my 19 year old cat: Only Natural Pet Tummy Relief Dog Cat Supplement
Thank you for the support.

We are very relieved that the wound is healing, but unfortunately we aren't able to forget about the possible chance of Pythium arising.

He only has 3 more days left of the Metronidazole so we are just going to finish it out, per our Vet. We are in the process of a diet change, it is alot easier said than done unfortunately. I never would have guessed it to be so difficult finding a proper food.

Thanks again!
Yesterday 07:24 PM
carmspack that is why I recommended Orijen Regional Red Regional Red | Orijen
Yesterday 07:14 PM
BowWowMeow Glad to see that the wound is healing!!!!!!

Diarrhea is actually a side effect of metro/flagyl and there have been dogs on here before who did worse on it. It is obviously NOT helping and since it is an antibiotic longterm use will just continue to destroy the good intestinal flora.

If this were my dog, I would change proteins (try lean buffalo or beef or poached salmon) and try one of the holistic remedies suggested here.
I used this in an emergency situation with my 19 year old cat: Only Natural Pet Tummy Relief Dog Cat Supplement
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