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07-02-2014 06:06 PM
Diesel7602 I'll keep trying.

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07-02-2014 05:27 PM
lalachka Also, try to get some tripe. They go crazy for it. I haven't seen a dog not go nuts for tripe. Even the white bleached one. It's useless in terms of nutrients but might be helpful to get him used to the texture.

Dog food is like junk food. The flavors are exaggerated and after that everything tastes bland. Have some patience though again, I know how frustrating it is when a dog won't eat. My cats are back on cat food. I lasted a month
07-02-2014 05:25 PM
lalachka Are you really going to try? This is a little time consuming when you first start especially if he won't eat. My cats wouldn't take raw so I know the frustration.

Anyway, take a piece of chicken or liver or whatever and sear it for 2 secs. Literally just to brown it all around and give it the familiar smell. I've read that raw is more bland than dog food so they might not know it's food.

Also, fast him for a day. I couldn't fast my cats because it's dangerous but dogs can go a day or two with no food. There were days where my dog turned his nose up at chicken so I fasted him for a day.
07-02-2014 03:38 PM
Diesel7602 My dog won't eat any of the raw stuff. He sticks his nose up and walks away.

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06-30-2014 10:15 PM
lalachka No, just as a % like if you give him 50 lbs of meat, 30 lbs of bone, sometime in that period he should get about 5 lbs of liver and 5 lbs of organs. These are approximatr, as an example
06-30-2014 07:23 PM
Diesel7602
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That's one way of doing it. I started giving diff meats right away, he took it fine.

He should get about 2 lbs a day, split in 2 one lb meals. Then go from there. If he's too skinny - up it a little, too fat - down a little.

Then watch his poops. Too liquid - add bone, too hard - decrease bone. It's not that complicated and you don't have to balance every meal, as long as it balances over time.

I started off with chicken thighs and drum sticks and beef meat. Make sure you give organs and liver is a must. .
Organs with every meal?

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06-30-2014 11:23 AM
lalachka
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So do chicken for two weeks, then I can add a different protein, at the same time with the chicken? Say, for two weeks I use chicken, then I can add fish. Would I just do fish for two weeks after or alternate fish and chicken for two weeks after the two weeks of chicken?

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That's one way of doing it. I started giving diff meats right away, he took it fine.

He should get about 2 lbs a day, split in 2 one lb meals. Then go from there. If he's too skinny - up it a little, too fat - down a little.

Then watch his poops. Too liquid - add bone, too hard - decrease bone. It's not that complicated and you don't have to balance every meal, as long as it balances over time.

I started off with chicken thighs and drum sticks and beef meat. Make sure you give organs and liver is a must. .
06-29-2014 04:51 PM
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His dad was 130 and his mom was 80-90 pounds. So I'm guessing he will be between 90-130 pound full grown.

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So do chicken for two weeks, then I can add a different protein, at the same time with the chicken? Say, for two weeks I use chicken, then I can add fish. Would I just do fish for two weeks after or alternate fish and chicken for two weeks after the two weeks of chicken?

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06-29-2014 04:48 PM
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At 60lbs he would eat about 1.2 lbs per day, but how big do you expect him to get? Generally for puppies its 2-3% of their projected adult weight. I always start with less and add more depending on how they look (losing/gaining)...

You could try 3 times a day, though two times may be easier because you can feed bigger pieces per meal.

At the beginning I add no extras. You want the transition to be as flawless as possible. Then once they are fully transitioned I usually just add fish oil for the good omegas...There are other things people add but you'll have decide what works for you. IMO all a dog needs is meat, bone, and organ. In an 80% 10% 10% ratio. Where 10% of the organ is liver.

For example: My dog who's adult weight was 60lbs, would get a chicken quarter, sliver of liver, and an egg one day. Then the next day about 1.3 lbs of beef heart. Then a turkey neck the next day...And I just keep switching it up like that. For him he had to have bone every other day and I usually only fed organ 1-2 times per week.

When you are just starting you want to stick with one protein source (like chicken, because its easily digested) for at least two weeks. If all is well at the end of two weeks you add another protein like turkey, then go 1-2 more weeks alternating between turkey and chicken...then move to the next protein...As long as there is no digestive upset you just keep going until you've introed all the proteins you plan to feed. I generally rotated between 3-5 proteins at a time.
His dad was 130 and his mom was 80-90 pounds. So I'm guessing he will be between 90-130 pound full grown.

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06-29-2014 03:53 PM
lauren43 At 60lbs he would eat about 1.2 lbs per day, but how big do you expect him to get? Generally for puppies its 2-3% of their projected adult weight. I always start with less and add more depending on how they look (losing/gaining)...

You could try 3 times a day, though two times may be easier because you can feed bigger pieces per meal.

At the beginning I add no extras. You want the transition to be as flawless as possible. Then once they are fully transitioned I usually just add fish oil for the good omegas...There are other things people add but you'll have decide what works for you. IMO all a dog needs is meat, bone, and organ. In an 80% 10% 10% ratio. Where 10% of the organ is liver.

For example: My dog who's adult weight was 60lbs, would get a chicken quarter, sliver of liver, and an egg one day. Then the next day about 1.3 lbs of beef heart. Then a turkey neck the next day...And I just keep switching it up like that. For him he had to have bone every other day and I usually only fed organ 1-2 times per week.

When you are just starting you want to stick with one protein source (like chicken, because its easily digested) for at least two weeks. If all is well at the end of two weeks you add another protein like turkey, then go 1-2 more weeks alternating between turkey and chicken...then move to the next protein...As long as there is no digestive upset you just keep going until you've introed all the proteins you plan to feed. I generally rotated between 3-5 proteins at a time.
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